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Howdy folks!!!  :))
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Hello Mertov! 

Thanks for the great reply.  Much appreciated.  Now let's debate :D :D

On the competition aspect.  While I agree that there is no way to determine if a chang was better then a roddick, your notion of not being able to determine the strength of an era is completely off. 

Sure, it is not an exact science, but we can tell a 'weaker' from 'stronger' era, especially from a players perspective and that is all I am referencing. 

For example:  We can EASILY determine that Roger and Novak are superior to those players named above.  And just as easily conclude Fed is greater then everyone outside his era not named Borg, Laver, or Pistol Pete (and those guys are with only the smallest of doubts).

Now take that & apply the fact that Roger was the most consistent player the tour has ever seen bar none and remember:

1) Rafa has had to face this man his ENTIRE career!!

2) Rafa had to face this man through his (Fed's) peak! 

"No holes"

The "no holes" references that I was not arguing 'strongest era' ever.  Yet pointing out he does not 'suffer' from a weak era argument.  He has "no holes" in the era debate. 

If you want to argue about era's though, I will argue that his era was the strongest.  Unlike your '74 list which quickly has holes (laver way past his prime, bjorg baby stepping into his and neither was in 23 consecutive Grand Slam Semi's like a certain someone was anyways) Rafa has never had one 'easy' year let alone an 'era'

Let's not forget Djokovic, who may end up passing Borg on the Slam list, also peaked THROUGH Rafa's career.

So case closed, Rafa is bulletproof there.


Next issue: H2H does matter.  50 years later everyone remembers that Bill Russell wiped the floor with Chamberlain.  And this type of dominance will hold in tennis.

The h2h you reference is weak in comparison.  You are talking about Orantes vs Vilas??  First off, neither of those players are the level of a Federer or Nadal on any stage.  And they didn't meat that many times.

Novak, Rog and Rafa (due to their excellence) have faced each other NUMEROUS times. And on the biggest of stages -> GRAND SLAMS!  Rafa has face Roger 11 times in Grand Slams alone.  You are talking about guys who face each other 11 times in their career.

Plus, the moments, want to reference that more.  you think people aren't going to remember what is called the "Greatest Tennis Match Ever" of Rafa vs Fed at Wimby 2008.  Or, as was pointed out earlier, the Fed - Rafa final at the 2009 Aussie Open Final??

You think they won't remember who was the victor of both those matches and that the guy who won those also wiped the floor with the other guy on Clay?

I think you are not giving enough credit.  They will indeed remember that.  Even nowadays I hear about the Lendl - McEnroe Final in every argument about those two and it always comes down to Lendl's superior H2H in GS's.

Enjoy!!!






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Tennis Discussions / Re: Rafael Nadal pulls out of Canada, Cincinnati Masters
« Last post by Alex on Yesterday at 09:57:21 PM »
well, it sucks. I hate when players are injured. It's just that with Rafa I feel you never know nowadays. I'm pretty sure he'll be fresh for the USO.
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Tennis4you Chat Threads / Re: ~* Ye Olde Village *~ Volume 1 "A New Beginning"
« Last post by mimi on Yesterday at 08:18:28 PM »
Mimi - one event at a time. Focusing on Roger's Masters Canadian Open. 2nd round match. One at at time!

all right, but i do think he has big chance to get to the final of us open since Rafa may not even play and Murray is not in good form. :gleam:
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It is strange. Last time Nadal played the whole season (all mandatory masters, majors, WTF) was in 2007. I wish him a quick recovery but there is a part of me that is suspicious of all of his injuries, knees problems ... DP, Murray had some major injury issues ... still recovering. Rafa decides not to play for 5, 7 months at a time and comes back fresh as a daisy. Spanish doctors are simply amazing  :innocent: .

Ha, yeah they are!  I need me some of them doctors!

Funny all this time has passed, I thought he knees would never take his this far.  Dude is a beast.
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Tennis Discussions / Re: Rafael Nadal pulls out of Canada, Cincinnati Masters
« Last post by Alex on Yesterday at 09:13:01 AM »
It is strange. Last time Nadal played the whole season (all mandatory masters, majors, WTF) was in 2007. I wish him a quick recovery but there is a part of me that is suspicious of all of his injuries, knees problems ... DP, Murray had some major injury issues ... still recovering. Rafa decides not to play for 5, 7 months at a time and comes back fresh as a daisy. Spanish doctors are simply amazing  :innocent:.
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Could that possibly push Nadal to #3 or worse?
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Mimi - one event at a time. Focusing on Roger's Masters Canadian Open. 2nd round match. One at at time!
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Tennis4you Chat Threads / Re: ~* Ye Olde Village *~ Volume 1 "A New Beginning"
« Last post by mimi on Yesterday at 02:35:51 AM »
do y think Roger can get to the us open's final?  :confused1:
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Tennis Discussions / Re: Rafael Nadal pulls out of Canada, Cincinnati Masters
« Last post by morganli on Yesterday at 02:13:35 AM »
 yep, 2000 points - that a lot. feel sorry for Nadal. Anyway, Djokovic deserves to be no.1, he showed some great performance this year
 
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