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ATP - US OPEN (August 25 - September 7)
« on: July 10, 2008, 01:03:22 AM »
I have noticed that the U.S. Open buzz is in the air everywhere. This one is going to be one of the most anticipated U.S. Opens in recent memory. There is so much that is at stake here. Everybody is fired up about this last slam of 2008. This is our last slam party of 2008 so lets get it started and have tons of fun posting about it. Is thewre anybody here who is going to Flushing Meadows?

Everyone in the tennis circles has questions. Can Fed rebound from his Wimbledon loss to capture at least one slam in 2008? Here is a man who is used to capturing no less than 75% of the slams in a single year. How about Djokovic? He is the new hard court king with a very solid hard court resume. He too was dealt with some disappointment at Wimbledon. Can he surge again at the U.S. Open?

And then there is Nadal. Some have to wondering if he can keep it going with his new, more aggressive game and the confidence that comes along with winning both the French Open and the Wimbledon in a same year.

There are others who will also look to make their mark.  Roddick, Nalbandian, Ferrer, and Gasquet will hope for deep runs here. Could Gulbis announce his arrival here? I believe he has a huge upside.

What is your early read about the U.S. Open? Is it relatively open this year or does it belong to Fed? What must he do to capture this slam and keep his dream alive of catching Sampras? Is anybody giving Nadal a chance here?

Thoughts and comments? Let the party begin. What is your dream semifinal look like? My dream semifinal would be something like Fed vs Djokovic in one semifinal showdown and Nadal vs Gulbis in the other one.

on a sidenote, here is what Sampras had to say about that great Wimby final. Check this article out. He doesnt believe that Fed is done. Far from it according to Sampras. he is still convinced that Fed will break his record. In any case, check it out. Pete has some interesting takes on the important matters concerning Fed.

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Posted 07/09/2008 @ 2 :06 PM
 
 Well, just  in case you think you've read  pretty much every possible take on the recent men's Wimbledon final, I bring you this gem from Los Angeles via the northerly outpost of Montreal. Let me just warn you: anyone who would get his or her shorts in a bunch over this might be the only person on earth who's a bigger tool than the dude who wrote the piece.

Personally, I find it hilarious - right up there with the time my sister (name withheld to protect the guilty) admitted that she sat through This is Spinal Tap and, thinking it was a documentary, couldn't understand why everyone was laughing so hard.

Anyway, on to more worthy preoccupations. I spoke with Pete Sampras yesterday, and he says "Hi' to all his fans at TennisWorld. Time out for a shameless plug: the book we wrote together, A Champion's Mind, has been on the New York Times best seller list (at no. 20, now 21) since shortly after it was published. We talked mostly about the Wimbledon final, and his pal and hitting buddy, Roger Federer

So what did you think?

I thought it was great, maybe the best match I've seen in many, many years. Two all-time greats, at their prime, playing great on the best court on earth. if you wrote a script it couldn't have been any better - Roger coming back from two sets to love, Nadal showing his heart. . . I thought it was great tennis and great drama.

I think Roger handled himself with a lot of class. What I really liked is that the match goes to show that when you come right down to it, great moments aren't about controversy, and they aren't about personality. They're about two great players who manage to reach beyond the usual audience for the game - that's especially big in this country. It was impressive that two guys who aren't American could capture the American sports fans that way. It was one of those moments in all sports that we'll never forget.

Did you talk to Roger, Pete?

It wasn't the right time, I didn't think. But I did send him a text, and told him, "Bad luck, too bad there had to be a loser in that one." I said he should take pride in the way he and Rafa are taking the sport way beyond the usual audience. He should feel great about that. He texted me back to say thanks.

I know it was disappointing for him, I'm sure hes still playing that match in his mind. But in years to come, he'll look back on this match and appreciate the moment. No question in my mind about that.

So do you think Roger needs to make any changes at this stage in his career, given Nadal and Djokovic's emergence?

I heard quite a few people saying he should come in more, serve and volley more. But Roger is just so much better than anyone except Rafa from the backcourt that you wonder if that would be a smart move. Sure he could attack a little more, but I still feel that if you put Rog and Rafa on that Centre Court 10 times, I think Roger wins 7 of them. He was right there with Rafa, neck-and-neck, and that's the opposite of how it is on clay. Rafa's already a legend on clay, but I'm sure Roger thinks he's still the better player on grass, and I believe that's true. But Rafa showed that it now comes down to form of the day, and on Sunday Roger just came up a little short.

Do you think Roger should have a full time coach, for either technical or emotional reasons?

No, I don't think he necessarily should. Everybody is different, and Roger's won plenty of Slams on his own. Maybe that's more his comfort zone. On the other hand, a coach can see things that a player can't,  and he can emphasize things and come up with a plan when a player might just want to go out and play his game.  I always found it valuable when Paul (Annacone, Sampras's former coach) would say something like, "I think you should serve big to his backhand at the start, just to plant a bug in his mind and open up the court, then try to do most of your damage on the forehand side."

That kind of simple advice was always welcome to me, even if at the last minute I didn't always carry it out. A coach can help, what, 2 per cent, for a player of Roger's caliber? But then again - this match came down to that small a difference between the guys. So who really knows.

What I think is important, though, is to keep a perspective on this and not over-analyze the match. Roger played well enough to win, only he didn't. On another day, he does. Contrary to what a lot of people are saying, I think Roger is having a good year, it's just that he's set such a high bar for himself. But can anybody say he's fallen off the pace, or that his game has holes in it? No way. He's right there, ready to strike, and he will - given the opportunity.

Do you still expect Roger to break your Grand Slam singles title record (14 titles)?


Oh, absolutely.  It's inevitable. He'll be in contention for all the majors, and he'll win a few more Wimbledons and U.S. Opens before he's done - no doubt in my mind.

Do you plan to practice or play any exos with him, like you did last fall?

We have nothing in the works. We talked about trying to put something together for London, an exhibition or something, but we couldn't make it work, schedules-wise. It would be nice to do it again, but right now Roger has other fish to fry.

What do you think about the Olympics; is Roger making a mistake by taking part, instead of concentrating on the U.S. Open, as Andy Roddick decided to do?


I think it's apples and oranges there. I think the Olympics is in Roger's heart; it's a really big deal for him. Maybe it's because he's the (arguably) greatest athlete ever produced in Switzerland, which is a small nation that does a lot better in the Winter Games than the Summer Games. But the Summer Games are bigger.

It means a lot for Roger to be able to carry that Swiss flag, like he did at the last Olympic Games. By contrast, Andy skipping the Olympics isn't that big a deal. The Olympics aren't quite as important in the U.S. as elsewhere, and the tennis event will be overshadowed because we have so many great athletes in the other sports. The Olympic thing - it's either in your heart or not.

What are you doing in the near future, public appearance-wise?

I'll be on the Charley Rose show this Friday, promoting our book. I'll be playing a senior event in London and a few one-night exhibitions, with Sam Querrey and a few of the other guys. I'll stay busy, play a little bit. . .

What major will you be attending next?

The one where Roger is poised to break my record. I'm kind of selfish about it, though - I told Roger that if that happens to be at the Australian Open, I may not make the trip. It's far, I've logged a lot of miles in my life going to tennis tournaments. I half-kiddingly told him he'll have to do it at Wimbledon or the U.S. Open, so now we'll just have to see what happens. Emotionally, I'd like to see him do it at either of those two places, preferably Wimbledon. And  I want to be there out of respect for him, but I also would like to go back to Wimbledon someday, because I love that place.
 
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Re: U.S. Open 2008 (ATP) : Anticipation & Speculation Thread
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2008, 03:42:10 AM »
Thats a great article herc. The buzz around the US-open is indeed everywhere because it is ofcourse one of the most shocking years (looking to Fed) and with all those players looking to take the title (a pumped rafa, a looking Djoker, maybe even gulbis like you said!). I cant wait.

I thought Petes thought about not going to AO was pretty hard! Besides his life aint seem so bad, play exhibition here, play event there and enjoy the day, thats what tennis is all about isnt it. After pro-stage or when you get older, you can still play and enjoy the game!
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 09:28:21 AM »
Will Safin play well?
Will the young Americans get some wins (Donald, Fish, Isner, Querry)?
Will Nadal make the final?
Will Djokovic re-emerge?
Who will be the big surprise?
Can Tsonga be a factor?
It is a given that Roger will make it far....
Is this the last time Santoro will play in New York?
Will Roddick do anything?  How about Blake?   
Can Venus and Serena continue their nice run?
Will Maria be a major factor?
Can Jankovic make it beyond the Semis?   
What will Mattek wear?  What will Ivonovic wear? 

These are some thoughts off the top of my head.....

I hope the weather is nice, because I have tickets for 4 days worth of tennis.   
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Re: U.S. Open 2008 (ATP) : Anticipation & Speculation Thread
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 09:39:38 AM »
Will Safin play well?
Will the young Americans get some wins (Donald, Fish, Isner, Querry)?
Will Nadal make the final?
Will Djokovic re-emerge?
Who will be the big surprise?
Can Tsonga be a factor?
It is a given that Roger will make it far....
Is this the last time Santoro will play in New York?
Will Roddick do anything?  How about Blake?   
Can Venus and Serena continue their nice run?
Will Maria be a major factor?
Can Jankovic make it beyond the Semis?   
What will Mattek wear?  What will Ivonovic wear? 

These are some thoughts off the top of my head.....

I hope the weather is nice, because I have tickets for 4 days worth of tennis.   

 :rofl_2: Good ones.


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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 10:20:16 AM »
I think Fed is the favourite here, and I'm backing him, but who knows? Djokovic is inconsistent, could perform well here, everyone seems to be underestimating Nadal on hardcourts, could he prove us erong? Who knows?

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2008, 10:25:17 AM »
I'm anxious to see if the really big hitters shine.  I think Gulbis is just scary. Rafa had a heck of a time getting rid of him. Absolutely spooky that he's going to get better.

Tsonga, same thing...  :scared:

Djoker will naturally come strutting out like a bantam rooster and doing lots of press, displaying his flexibility during matches, bending over to catch his breath, flexing an injured knee, etc.

I would think most of the field will be pretty consistent to what we've seen, perhaps with the exception of Safin. Maybe he got enough good vibes at Wimbledon to make himself more competitive.

Rafa... who knows. He's already done enough this year to make me a very happy fan.  :cloud 9:

Baggy, Nalby, Gonzo:  I'd really like to see them step up and play some good tennis, they are fun to watch and I think the game misses them, I know I do.

That other guy, Shrank Shrunk Strunk Stunk... what's his name? it evades me right now. He's very handsome and I hope to see more of him, makes my eyes happy!

Fed is the one with a mountain of pressure on him. I wouldn't want to be Fed the rest of the year.

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Re: U.S. Open 2008 (ATP) : Anticipation & Speculation Thread
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2008, 12:10:07 PM »
Thats a great article herc. The buzz around the US-open is indeed everywhere because it is ofcourse one of the most shocking years (looking to Fed) and with all those players looking to take the title (a pumped rafa, a looking Djoker, maybe even gulbis like you said!). I cant wait.

I thought Petes thought about not going to AO was pretty hard! Besides his life aint seem so bad, play exhibition here, play event there and enjoy the day, thats what tennis is all about isnt it. After pro-stage or when you get older, you can still play and enjoy the game!

affirmative. Pete is completely sold on Fed. you are also right about his life. he has millions and a private jet to run around the planet hitting a few tennis balls in those exos and getting paid for it

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Re: U.S. Open 2008 (ATP) : Anticipation & Speculation Thread
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2008, 12:11:35 PM »
Will Safin play well?
Will the young Americans get some wins (Donald, Fish, Isner, Querry)?
Will Nadal make the final?
Will Djokovic re-emerge?
Who will be the big surprise?
Can Tsonga be a factor?
It is a given that Roger will make it far....
Is this the last time Santoro will play in New York?
Will Roddick do anything?  How about Blake?   
Can Venus and Serena continue their nice run?
Will Maria be a major factor?
Can Jankovic make it beyond the Semis?   
What will Mattek wear?  What will Ivonovic wear? 

These are some thoughts off the top of my head.....

I hope the weather is nice, because I have tickets for 4 days worth of tennis.   

i was hoping that somebody from this forum will go there. you will have to report back on your adventures there.

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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 12:19:23 PM »
I think Fed is the favourite here, and I'm backing him, but who knows? Djokovic is inconsistent, could perform well here, everyone seems to be underestimating Nadal on hardcourts, could he prove us erong? Who knows?

hi Murrayfan. i just realized that we have to also include Andy Murray as a factor here. he has a lot to prove. he is finally healthy and playing well. he had a good Wimby until he ran into Mt. Everest.

hopefully he can make a deep run and take a few scalps.

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 12:23:56 PM »
I"m an Andy Rodick fan I hope he comes close to winning this year, but if he plays like he has been playing the last tournaments I don't think he is going past the 3rd round.

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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2008, 12:25:08 PM »
I think Fed is the favourite here, and I'm backing him, but who knows? Djokovic is inconsistent, could perform well here, everyone seems to be underestimating Nadal on hardcourts, could he prove us erong? Who knows?

hi Murrayfan. i just realized that we have to also include Andy Murray as a factor here. he has a lot to prove. he is finally healthy and playing well. he had a good Wimby until he ran into Mt. Everest.

hopefully he can make a deep run and take a few scalps.
true.......i have always liked murray's game and have a feeling that his best surfaces are hardcourts.......he closes in on the net pretty well.......and i expect him to make it to the second week........
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 12:28:49 PM »
I"m an Andy Rodick fan I hope he comes close to winning this year, but if he plays like he has been playing the last tournaments I don't think he is going past the 3rd round.

Calin

welcome to the forums calin. glad you have decided to join.

as for Roddick, he will have to likely deal with one of the top seeds in the quarters. that is one of disadvantages of being a lower seed. he will probably be seeded #6. i dont know if he can deal with the top 3 given his current form. he has to step it up big time. injuries have slowed him down some.

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« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2008, 12:30:04 PM »
I think Fed is the favourite here, and I'm backing him, but who knows? Djokovic is inconsistent, could perform well here, everyone seems to be underestimating Nadal on hardcourts, could he prove us erong? Who knows?

hi Murrayfan. i just realized that we have to also include Andy Murray as a factor here. he has a lot to prove. he is finally healthy and playing well. he had a good Wimby until he ran into Mt. Everest.

hopefully he can make a deep run and take a few scalps.
true.......i have always liked murray's game and have a feeling that his best surfaces are hardcourts.......he closes in on the net pretty well.......and i expect him to make it to the second week........

it would be better for him to be in Fed`s 1/2 of the draw.

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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 12:31:58 PM »
I think Fed is the favourite here, and I'm backing him, but who knows? Djokovic is inconsistent, could perform well here, everyone seems to be underestimating Nadal on hardcourts, could he prove us erong? Who knows?

hi Murrayfan. i just realized that we have to also include Andy Murray as a factor here. he has a lot to prove. he is finally healthy and playing well. he had a good Wimby until he ran into Mt. Everest.

hopefully he can make a deep run and take a few scalps.
true.......i have always liked murray's game and have a feeling that his best surfaces are hardcourts.......he closes in on the net pretty well.......and i expect him to make it to the second week........

it would be better for him to be in Fed`s 1/2 of the draw.
ya i get that........if he is in rafa's or djokovic's or tsonga's quarter, he might get blasted away......... 
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Re: U.S. Open 2008 (ATP) : Anticipation & Speculation Thread
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2008, 01:11:49 PM »
Will Safin play well?
Will the young Americans get some wins (Donald, Fish, Isner, Querry)?
Will Nadal make the final?
Will Djokovic re-emerge?
Who will be the big surprise?
Can Tsonga be a factor?
It is a given that Roger will make it far....
Is this the last time Santoro will play in New York?
Will Roddick do anything?  How about Blake?   
Can Venus and Serena continue their nice run?
Will Maria be a major factor?
Can Jankovic make it beyond the Semis?   
What will Mattek wear?  What will Ivonovic wear? 

These are some thoughts off the top of my head.....

I hope the weather is nice, because I have tickets for 4 days worth of tennis.   

Good list!

Four guys that pique my curriosity are Safin, Haas, Berdych and Gulbis. Each has made it to 4R or better.

Fed needs to win to extend his consecutive years having won at least 1 slam to 6. Pete's steak is 8 consecutive years, which ended after Wimby 2000. Pete won just 1 more slam thereafter.

Will Pacer qualify?

I'll be there, too!  :thumbs-up:  Thurs-Monday, Sep 1. There's a lotto guys going (pawan, alchemist, maybe NJ(?), Irish Mike, possibly others). We could have a T4U gathering at the end of a day of tennis.
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2008, 01:15:35 PM »
I"m an Andy Rodick fan I hope he comes close to winning this year, but if he plays like he has been playing the last tournaments I don't think he is going past the 3rd round.

Calin

welcome to the forums calin. glad you have decided to join.

as for Roddick, he will have to likely deal with one of the top seeds in the quarters. that is one of disadvantages of being a lower seed. he will probably be seeded #6. i dont know if he can deal with the top 3 given his current form. he has to step it up big time. injuries have slowed him down some.

welcome from me too, calin.   :welcome2:

Fed really needs this and, if he is playing (particularly serving) as well as last Sunday, he should win it.

Andy Roddick needs to do well, too. It's all very good to be "flying under the radar" but that can sometimes lead to a collision with a very hard place.  :gleam:
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2008, 01:37:42 PM »
Will Safin play well?
Will the young Americans get some wins (Donald, Fish, Isner, Querry)?
Will Nadal make the final?
Will Djokovic re-emerge?
Who will be the big surprise?
Can Tsonga be a factor?
It is a given that Roger will make it far....
Is this the last time Santoro will play in New York?
Will Roddick do anything?  How about Blake?   
Can Venus and Serena continue their nice run?
Will Maria be a major factor?
Can Jankovic make it beyond the Semis?   
What will Mattek wear?  What will Ivonovic wear? 

These are some thoughts off the top of my head.....

I hope the weather is nice, because I have tickets for 4 days worth of tennis.   

Good list!

Four guys that pique my curriosity are Safin, Haas, Berdych and Gulbis. Each has made it to 4R or better.

Fed needs to win to extend his consecutive years having won at least 1 slam to 6. Pete's steak is 8 consecutive years, which ended after Wimby 2000. Pete won just 1 more slam thereafter.

Will Pacer qualify?

I'll be there, too!  :thumbs-up:  Thurs-Monday, Sep 1. There's a lotto guys going (pawan, alchemist, maybe NJ(?), Irish Mike, possibly others). We could have a T4U gathering at the end of a day of tennis.

I'm not sure if I'm going.  I do want to but we'll have to see how everything works out.
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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2008, 01:37:59 PM »
Good list!

Four guys that pique my curriosity are Safin, Haas, Berdych and Gulbis. Each has made it to 4R or better.

Fed needs to win to extend his consecutive years having won at least 1 slam to 6. Pete's steak is 8 consecutive years, which ended after Wimby 2000. Pete won just 1 more slam thereafter.

Will Pacer qualify?

I'll be there, too!  :thumbs-up:  Thurs-Monday, Sep 1. There's a lotto guys going (pawan, alchemist, maybe NJ(?), Irish Mike, possibly others). We could have a T4U gathering at the end of a day of tennis.

I'm particularly interested in Safin, as the USO is probably his favorite surface.  After his win over Djoker, there was alot of talk about the hard work he's put in for the last year+.  If that's the case, then his recent run may not be a fluke - he may be poised to start playing some tough tennis.  He should still be at least near his prime physically, so he could be a factor.  I think the warmup tournaments will tell a lot about his USO, though - if he goes back to first round losses, I think he'll have a tough time confidence-wise.

I'm also curious to see if Pacer qualifies!  Get'em Pacer, we need T4U representation in the main draw!!!
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Re: U.S. Open 2008 (ATP) : Anticipation & Speculation Thread
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2008, 01:49:50 PM »
Welcome calin to the forum.
About Andy Murray, I do think he could well be a factor in the draw, but only if he stays away from Djokovic and Nadal in the draw. Fed may be a good hardcourter, but I think Murray can read Feds game a bit more. Whatever happens, I'll be rooting for Andy :))

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2008, 02:30:06 PM »
Welcome calin to the forum.
About Andy Murray, I do think he could well be a factor in the draw, but only if he stays away from Djokovic and Nadal in the draw. Fed may be a good hardcourter, but I think Murray can read Feds game a bit more. Whatever happens, I'll be rooting for Andy :))

Lot of dangerous people at the Open this year.

With Murray stepping up like he did at Wimby, Fed and Rafa at the top of their game, and the ever dangerous Novak just to name a few this should be a great tourney.  Really hoping that Murray, Safin, Gulbis and the wildcards bring their 'A' game. 

 :)>>>>
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