I wouldn't call it illogic. It's just that everytime I come here you and Dmast are complaining about taxes and social programs. No matter how you two feel about taxes and social programs, we will always have to pay taxes and we will always have social programs, no matter who enters the White House. Therefore, you will never be happy, so again, why not move? Or if you feel you have such novel ideas, run for office yourself. Further, it's been clear that we aren't doing so great on the economic front, so yeah taxes are going to increase because of it. Under Obama, those making under a quater-million( the people who apparently "produce nothing") a year will receive federal tax cuts, but state taxes will probably increase somewhat(state taxes were going to increase no matter who entered the White House). And obviously government was going to expand no matter who entered the White House. Extreme right wing beliefs don't change reality.
Now you are painting me with a pretty broad and nasty brush. I'm not some kind of right wing kook, and I never cast Obama as a "commie". I do think he is a socialist, but that's not the same thing.
I am not complaining about the taxes I pay. I'm expecting to have to pay more. That's the problem. I am not complaining (too much) about the existing social programs. At least with respect to the Obama discussion. I'm complaining about his portraying this country as if there are no social programs. It's as if there is no help to be had if you are poor. That is just not true. They are in place, and they do a very good job helping people. They are effective (if not too effective, and very inefficient).
You talk about that $250,000 figure as if it's some line placed in the sand, not to be crossed. I expect it to be crossed almost immediately (in fact I'll bet you will hear that it was $250K businesses, not personal income soon). I'm fully expecting to pay more taxes under Obama not less, and I make much, much less than $250K. I make just enough money to live as it is right now, perhaps with some comfort. I struggle to get the bills paid. But I will make less in the coming years. That's what I expect, and that's what I'm scared of.
Obviously people who make less than $250K can't be categorized as producing nothing. I never said that. I said we take money from those who produce something, and give it to those who produce nothing. Sometimes, it's because they are incapable of producing. They are disabled, or mentally incapable of doing so. I have no problem with that. I have a problem when they are capable, but don't because they don't have to, and complain because the assistance that they already get isn't enough. That is a growing portion of the population.
If what I am expecting doesn't come to pass, if people making under $100K annually aren't getting taxed more, and somehow the economic crisis abates, and the debt is still cut, then I will applaud Obama, and change my tune. If he can implement universal healthcare, and not have it become a fiasco, like Hawaii, great. I'll be a happy camper, becuase I won't have to keep paying for my own crappy healthcare. I don't think he has a realistic chance of doing what he seems to want to do and not create more chaos.