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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #260 on: May 22, 2009, 04:37:19 PM »
Have you guys lost your collective minds!?

WTF is this whiney ass s**t about "Oh, I don't know that ATP is means men and WTA is women... poor me." Go the frack somewhere else, Emma. And tell your new forum mates to stop refering to the men as ATP.

And, Dallas, that's just retarded that you changed it just to stop her whining.

this whole situation has been hilarious :rofl_2:

 :mad1: hee hee  :rofl_2:

Dallas did it intentionally, because she hates the French Open and Nadal fans.
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #261 on: May 22, 2009, 04:38:38 PM »
I have no idea what the big fuss is about..  I thought people didn't want the ATP and WTA on it because - technically - doesn't the ITF run the grand slams? :confused1:  OK... I've been talked about for changing the title of the tread and honesly I don't know why?  Usually we start a thread and then later we actually start the 'official' thread after the draw has been made.  Well, instead of starting a 'new' thread - I just changed the title without really trying or meaning to hurt anyone.

Are we all really that sensitive on this subject? :confused1:  I really don't get it. :confused1: :Confused:

So...If you all (or the 'creator of the threads) really want me to change it back, just say it.  But I tell you what...some folks need to just take a chill pill and relax or a stroke might be brewing....

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #262 on: May 22, 2009, 04:42:54 PM »
I have no idea what the big fuss is about..  I thought people didn't want the ATP and WTA on it because - technically - doesn't the ITF run the grand slams? :confused1:  OK... I've been talked about for changing the title of the tread and honesly I don't know why?  Usually we start a thread and then later we actually start the 'official' thread after the draw has been made.  Well, instead of starting a 'new' thread - I just changed the title without really trying or meaning to hurt anyone.

Are we all really that sensitive on this subject? :confused1:  I really don't get it. :confused1: :Confused:

So...If you all (or the 'creator of the threads) really want me to change it back, just say it.  But I tell you what...some folks need to just take a chill pill and relax or a stroke might be brewing....

ITF  :rofl_2: :hysterical:
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #263 on: May 22, 2009, 04:58:11 PM »
Back on topic...

Nadal has
Ferrer :dunno:
Davydenko
Verdasco
Murray :dunno:

*wow, Victor Hanescu is the #30 seed  :applause:

Djokovic has
Del Potro
Robredo
Monfils
Federer

That's pretty much it right there.

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #264 on: May 22, 2009, 04:59:27 PM »
I have no idea what the big fuss is about..  I thought people didn't want the ATP and WTA on it because - technically - doesn't the ITF run the grand slams? :confused1:  OK... I've been talked about for changing the title of the tread and honesly I don't know why?  Usually we start a thread and then later we actually start the 'official' thread after the draw has been made.  Well, instead of starting a 'new' thread - I just changed the title without really trying or meaning to hurt anyone.

Are we all really that sensitive on this subject? :confused1:  I really don't get it. :confused1: :Confused:

So...If you all (or the 'creator of the threads) really want me to change it back, just say it.  But I tell you what...some folks need to just take a chill pill and relax or a stroke might be brewing....

Ok i started this thread,with the name its fine,long as i & you know its RG,whats the fuss about.

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #265 on: May 22, 2009, 05:15:58 PM »
Well I guess this is good news for all you Nole and Nadal fans...Jon Wertheim's picks:

Semifinals
Nadal vs. Total Surprise (Montanes?)

Djokovic vs. Federer

Final
Nadal vs. Djokovic

Champion
Nadal

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #266 on: May 22, 2009, 05:18:27 PM »
Well I guess this is good news for all you Nole and Nadal fans...Jon Wertheim's picks:

Semifinals
Nadal vs. Total Surprise (Montanes?)

Djokovic vs. Federer

Final
Nadal vs. Djokovic

Champion
Nadal

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_wertheim/05/22/frenchdraw.men/


Those aren't my picks. I'd rather hear your picks.
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #267 on: May 22, 2009, 05:20:17 PM »
WHOA! Murray drew JI Chela in 1R.  :-o

I've got to think about that.
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #268 on: May 22, 2009, 05:21:20 PM »
I don't care who is in the finals as long as Roger can win the French Open. :))  I'll stick by Roger until he retires 5 years from now! :)~

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #269 on: May 22, 2009, 05:22:02 PM »
Here's a French Open preview:

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #270 on: May 22, 2009, 05:23:49 PM »
Wow! Things get easy path to the QF for my guy! GASTON after 1R against Stepanek. Excellent draw!
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #271 on: May 22, 2009, 05:28:03 PM »
Here's Bodo's predictions:

Okay, so let’s look at the draw, quarter-by-quarter, starting at the top, to see whose path is apt to be easy, and whose will be treacherous.

In the top, “Nadal” quarter, Nadal’s stiffest challenge is apt to come from the no. 8 seed, his pal, countryman, and Davis Cup comrade, Fernando Verdasco.  That’s if Verdasco can make his seed. It’s likely he’ll do that, because he’s made the fourth round for two years running now, and his game and confidence seem to have taken a quantum leap this year. No question that after the no. 3 seed Andy Murray (who‘s in Rafa’s half), Verdasco looms as Nadal’s main obstacle to reaching his fifth final.

Nadal opens against a qualifier, and while he has a seasoned veteran and multiple Grand Slam winner Lleyton Hewitt in a potential third-rounder, the former no. 1 has always been better on hard courts than clay. I don’t think Stanislas Wawrinka moves well enough, especially on clay and over five-sets, to pose a serious threat to Nadal, but Nadal’s quarter also contains two unpredictable players: Nicolas Kiefer and Ernests Gulbis – the latter by far the more dangerous of the two. In just two years in Paris, Gulbis had made the second round, then the quarterfinals. He’s unpredictable, but his heavy artillery is dangerous when he’s on his game.

My dark horse pick for this round is Nicolas Almagro, a lowly no. 31 seed but a quarter-finalist last year.

The “Murray” quarter is tricky, with a whole raft of intriguing and dangerous if flawed performers, starting with  Murray’s first opponent, Juan Ignacio Chela. He’s outside the top 200 now, but he’s a French Open veteran and just the kind of guy who can still paste up the big upset. That said, I still see Murray surviving Chela. One of the better first round match-ups pits Janko Tipsarevic against Albert Montanes, the winner to play a qualifier or Feliciano Lopez in order to (potentially) get at Murray.

Frenchman Gilles Simon, seeded no. 7, is in the bottom of the Murray quarter, and he could be playing US men in the first two rounds, which suggests that the no. 7 may finally make the second round of Roland Garros, something he hasn’t achieved in four attempts. On the other hand, it looks like Mr. Simon suffers from Mauresmo disease, which seems to afflict French players of either gender during Roland Garros. And with Radek Stepanek, Marin Cilic, Marat Safin, Mikhail Youzhny and Fernando Gonzalez also in this quarter, we might see some real fireworks.

I think Montanes will be the ritual “surprise semi-finalist” at the French Open. 

 The “Djokovic” quarter features six Frenchman, most of whom will also catch Mauresmo disease. But Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, seeded no. 9. may be an exception. Joe Willy has a big game, and he’s an unknown factor – he’s played at Roland Garros just once (a first-round loss in 2005).  Although his health is always questionable, he doesn’t seem as mentally fragile as some of his countrymen, and he could surprise everyone – including his potential fourth-round opponent, no. 5 seed Juan Martin del Potro. Both men have a lot of flesh and muscle to lug around, but the contrast in styles between the attacker, Tsonga, and defender, del Potro, would make for a very attractive battle for the right to meet Novak Djokovic in the fourth round.

Former French  Open champion and no. 1 player Juan Carlos Ferrero stands in Djokovic’s way in the second round, but other than that, it looks like pretty clear sailing for the no. 4 seed. Tommy Robredo, seeded 16 and with a Roland Garros resume littered with quarterfinal and fourth-round finishes, might not concede the quarter to Djokovic, but it’s hard to imagine Robredo withstanding the kind of bombardment Djokovic delivers with his groundstrokes.

The dark horse pick? Germany’s Philipp Kohlschreiber, seeded 29. But it’s a half-hearted pick, because Djokovic’s star seems to be on the rise.

The “Federer” quarter is at the bottom of the draw, and since I predicted that Federer would not survive to play Nadal in the final, let’s cut right to the chase. The players most likely to take him out are Paul Henri Mathieu, who’s case of Mauresmo disease seems fairly mild (he’s often gone three, four rounds), ever dangerous but unpredictable Tomas Berdych, or Gael Monfils. You’ll remember that Monfils played Federer pretty tough in the semis last year, and for 2009 the draw has Monfils playing the US’s Bobby Reynolds in the first round, then the winner between two qualifiers. The bad news for Monfils fans is that he has a bum knee and may even withdraw from the event.

Andy Roddick. the no. 6 seed, is in this quarter as well, with Eduardo Schwank of Argentina standing in his way in the third round. Schwank is a fourth-year pro who got to the third round of Roland Garros in his lone appearance (2008) in Paris.  If Roddick gets by him, he’ll have his hands full with Monfils. If the French player withdraws, who knows?

 Federer’s first opponent is Alberto Martin, who came within one game of being double-bageled by Federer in their last and only previous meeting, on clay in Monte Carlo in 2006. Federer mostly likely gets Jose Acasuso in the second round, then conceivably Mathieu, Berdych and Monfils – in that order. It isn’t the world’s toughest draw, but the three men I just mentioned are volatile and capable of playing brilliantly.

 So my Final Four are: Nadal, Albert Montanes (who will ambush Murray). Djokovic, and Monfils or Mathieu (should Monfils pull out). Nadal and Djokovic will play the final, and the winner will be Nadal.
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #272 on: May 22, 2009, 05:33:35 PM »
Lugger! Tommy has a nice draw--Blake and Berdych. Can't ask for much more... other than a hard court, of course :laugh-bounce:
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #273 on: May 22, 2009, 05:40:04 PM »
Bad news for sid and Dallas!

Chela upsets Murray in 1R and Monfils sends The Federer home in the QF.
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #274 on: May 22, 2009, 05:42:11 PM »
Bad news for sid and Dallas!

Chela upsets Murray in 1R and Monfils sends The Federer home in the QF.

Yea, the same Monfils that will be playing on one bad knee and all the while huffing and puffing since he hasn't really played a lot this year.  But he'll take Roger out. :whistle:  I'm glad Bodo and others are NOT picking Roger for anything.  This way Roger won't have any pressure whatsoever on him. :))

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« Reply #275 on: May 22, 2009, 06:00:34 PM »
Bad news for sid and Dallas!

Chela upsets Murray in 1R and Monfils sends The Federer home in the QF.

Yea, the same Monfils that will be playing on one bad knee and all the while huffing and puffing since he hasn't really played a lot this year.  But he'll take Roger out. :whistle:  I'm glad Bodo and others are NOT picking Roger for anything.  This way Roger won't have any pressure whatsoever on him. :))

Hard to believe that Bodo is actually picking an injured Monfils who could withdraw at any moment or PHM with a 13-13 record this season to beat Fed.  Doesn't make much sense at all....I guess he wanted to make some bold predictions. :dunno:

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« Reply #276 on: May 22, 2009, 06:11:05 PM »
Here are Steve Tignor's picks:

Another year, another hotly debated, highly anticipated French Open men’s tournament. And in the end, another foregone conclusion, right? It’s remarkable how much anticipation remains for these two weeks despite the fact that since 2005 they've been controlled, more tightly each year, by one player. Did we look forward this way to Wimbledon during the often-stultifying reign of Pete Sampras? Yeah, I guess we did. The remote but dumbfounding possibility of seeing the king deposed, like the possibility of buying a winning lottery ticket, keeps us coming back for more against our better judgment.

This year, the possibility that Rafael Nadal will not win the French Open feels just about as remote as it has the last few springs, which is to say, distant. But it feels a little more plausible than it did a week ago, before Roger Federer proved that the Spaniard can be beaten on clay. Granted, it took a four-hour match the day before and an altitude he didn’t like, but the point is, it happened. There are 127 players lined up below Nadal on the French Open drawsheet who will try to make it happen again. Who has a chance?

First Quarter

In his presser today, Nadal sounded happy to get back down closer to sea level, where, according to him, the ball doesn’t fly off the strings so haphazardly. Separating Paris and Madrid so distinctly in his mind is probably a good strategy; it will allow him to think of his loss on Sunday as an aberration rather than a harbinger. And instead of rattling him, I think it will make him come out with a fighter’s, rather than a defender’s, mindset. He has a little bit to prove again, which isn’t a bad thing.

Who or what stands out in Nadal’s section of the draw? Actually, kind of a lot, now that I look at it. There’s a Hewitt-Karlovic opener that could provide him with his third-round opponent—neither is a gimme, though neither is as dangerous as he used to be. After that, there’s fellow clay dog Ferrer, who pushed him hard for a set in Barcelona; Davydenko, another dirtballer who has troubled Nadal on the surface and has reached the French semis; Wawrinka, a solid Top 20 kind of guy; Almagro, a flashy but perpetually disillusioning fellow Spaniard who was drubbed here by Nadal in 2008; and Verdasco, a, um, flashy but perpetually disillusioning Spaniard who was drubbed here by Nadal in 2008.

This could be a slog for Rafa, but would he want it any other way?

First-round match to watch: Gulbis vs. Querrey

Semifinalist: Nadal

Second Quarter

With that many strong players migrating to the top of the draw, Andy Murray has been left with, on paper at least, fairly easy pickings. Lopez, Stepanek, Cilic, Gonzalez, Safin, Hanescu (?), and Simon are the other seeds here. Of those, Gonzo is most likely to succeed. This is a positive for Murray, who has shown his lack of total acclimation to clay since Monte Carlo, at which point I thought he might be the biggest threat to Nadal in Paris. Now, just a couple weeks later, his passive game seems to leave him vulnerable to heavy hitters, like Monaco and del Potro, his recent conquerors, who can hit through the court more easily than he can. Murray will face one of those guys, sorta, in the first round when he plays Juan Ignacio Chela.

Wildcard to watch while you can: The last pre-Nadal French champ, Gaston Gaudio

Semifinalist: Gonzalez

Third Quarter

It seems like old times, doesn’t it, wondering which side of the draw Novak Djokovic will fall on? It makes a certain cosmic sense that he and Federer get each other—Djoko and Nadal must be sick of each other’s faces at the moment. The Serb is in high form again and would make a fine sleeper pick to win it all. He believes in his fitness, he’s found that precious and precarious balance of control and aggression, and he realizes that he’s a cut above the pack, a fact that seemed to escape him for a few months there.

Which members of that pack will be chasing him? First there’s del Potro, who I would consider a threat except that he’s never taken a set from Djokovic, or even reached a tiebreaker—the Serb seems to relish facing him. Other than that, we’ve got Tsonga, a home fave who has never won a match at Roland Garros; ex-champ J.C. Ferrero; the savage forehand of Igor Andreev, and, buried far from Djokovic, Monaco, who opens against Marcos Baghdatis.

Player to watch for the last time in Paris: Fabrice Santoro, who opens with C. Rochus

Player to watch for the first time in Paris: Bernard Tomic, who opens with Kohlschreiber

Semifinalist: Djokovic

Fourth Quarter

There are some names to consider in Roger Federer’s quarter—Berdych, Blake, Monfils, Roddick—but are there any threats to the three-time finalist? The only one who sticks out as of now is Berdych, who was up two sets to love against Fed in Australia. So he is a possibility, but they wouldn’t play each other until the fourth round, plenty of time for Federer to find his footing on Chatrier, a court he has had to learn to tolerate over the years.

Federer seems more relaxed in Madrid than he has all year. The racquet-bashing was out of his system for the moment, and I think he feels like he has a shot at the whole thing after not just beating Nadal on clay, but doing it on his terms, and doing it without playing his absolute best. The bottom line? Federer doesn’t lose before the semis, of any Slam.

Semifinalist: Federer

Semifinals: Nadal d. Gonzalez; Djokovic d. Federer

If Federer and Djokovic face each other, it will be a battle of two players who come in with a lot of confidence, and a lot of confidence that they can beat the other guy. Djokovic must feel like he’s figured out a rope-a-dope method of coaxing Fed to self-destruct, while Federer must feel like he’s in good enough form to put their last two matches behind him and exact revenge on a cocky whippersnapper who has always bugged him. But I think the stronger self-belief, as well as the more natural clay-court game, belongs to the Serb.

Final: Nadal d. Djokovic in straights

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #277 on: May 22, 2009, 06:11:50 PM »
Bad news for sid and Dallas!

Chela upsets Murray in 1R and Monfils sends The Federer home in the QF.

Yea, the same Monfils that will be playing on one bad knee and all the while huffing and puffing since he hasn't really played a lot this year.  But he'll take Roger out. :whistle:  I'm glad Bodo and others are NOT picking Roger for anything.  This way Roger won't have any pressure whatsoever on him. :))

God you people are delusional  :rofl_2: :lmao!:
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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #278 on: May 22, 2009, 06:33:55 PM »
Bad news for sid and Dallas!

Chela upsets Murray in 1R and Monfils sends The Federer home in the QF.

Yea, the same Monfils that will be playing on one bad knee and all the while huffing and puffing since he hasn't really played a lot this year.  But he'll take Roger out. :whistle:  I'm glad Bodo and others are NOT picking Roger for anything.  This way Roger won't have any pressure whatsoever on him. :))

God you people are delusional  :rofl_2: :lmao!:

And we are suppose to take you serious - the same person who picks Guadio and Monfils to make the QF? :\ :rofl_2:

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Re: 2009 OFFICIAL FRENCH OPEN THREAD - MEN
« Reply #279 on: May 22, 2009, 06:38:30 PM »
Bad news for sid and Dallas!

Chela upsets Murray in 1R and Monfils sends The Federer home in the QF.

Yea, the same Monfils that will be playing on one bad knee and all the while huffing and puffing since he hasn't really played a lot this year.  But he'll take Roger out. :whistle:  I'm glad Bodo and others are NOT picking Roger for anything.  This way Roger won't have any pressure whatsoever on him. :))

God you people are delusional  :rofl_2: :lmao!:

And we are suppose to take you serious - the same person who picks Guadio and Monfils to make the QF? :\ :rofl_2:

Apples and oranges, Dallas. Mine are mearly guesses, as good as these other clowns you guys keep posting.

You, on the other hand, have walked waste high into denial.
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