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« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2009, 10:29:22 PM »

Soderling is the man. He really took it to Roger. wow.  If Robin is on fire, looks like he can beat any one.


Cool! Thanks for the respect!!  ://

He just turned 25 in August, and I think he is just coming into a time in his life when he can handle all his success. Against anyone other the Maestro (TMF), he has proven he is capable of winning. My favorite match of his at the FO was his 5 set victory over Gonzo. Gonzo, remember,  had only lost 1 set the entire FO to Andy Murray going into the semis.
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« Reply #81 on: September 10, 2009, 10:33:00 PM »
Robin was a little slow out of the gate but finished strong last night.
An excellent showing!  Looking forward to more of his huge game this fall. :))

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« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2009, 10:37:12 AM »
I really enjoy watching Soderling play. His ground game is amazing from both sides of the wing.
I earnestly hope that he makes it to the Top 8 this year and qualifies for the Year-end-championship.
He will really give the Top 5 a run for their money.

Although, his MS performance has been quite dismal this year. He really needs to ramp it up in these tournaments.
If I were advising him, I would tell him to play China Open and come fresh & healthy for both Masters.
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« Reply #83 on: September 12, 2009, 08:08:28 AM »
I really enjoy watching Soderling play. His ground game is amazing from both sides of the wing.
I earnestly hope that he makes it to the Top 8 this year and qualifies for the Year-end-championship.
He will really give the Top 5 a run for their money.

Although, his MS performance has been quite dismal this year. He really needs to ramp it up in these tournaments.
If I were advising him, I would tell him to play China Open and come fresh & healthy for both Masters.

Hi Awk,

You're right about his MS performances this year, but much of it has had to do with injuries and bad timing. Plus, this time of the year (indoors season) has consistently been his best time of the year. His go for broke and lines style is favorable without wind, and he grew up in Sweden, and to paraphrase an interview, he learned how to play his tennis indoors almost 80% of the time because of cold weather. He had a slump period from nagging injuries during the Masters at Indian Hills, CA and Miami. He actually played some Challengers in this time frame to get match sharp.

This continued into the first couple of Clay Masters, which also WAS his worse surface, so I'm not sure he was putting much of a mental effort into it either (ala Andy Roddick, although maybe not that extreme). He started refinding his game in Rome and Madrid and that was the beginning of his hot streak up until the U.S. Open. His losses in those two Masters we're to Nadal and Federer.

He won 18/20 matches at one point with the losses only coming at Federer's hands (French Open and Wimbledon). He injured his elbow during the Montreal Masters Cup and had to default against Del Pony in the third round. He missed the ensuing Cincy Masters for that same injury. So he really was only at full steam and in form during the Masters in Madrid, and again ran into Federer and Nadal, and didn't have the self belief back then. So I think he should be able to improve quite a bit. He wrote a bit that he is feeling really good right now and is looking forward to the Davis Cup matches coming up. So he is more healthy it would appear after the U.S. Open then he was right before it. He's got a shot. The rain the past couple of days has allowed everyone to watch those last two sets in his match against Roger, and I think the optimism he is showing is a result of all the respect and acknowledgement of his abilities that the media, press and tennis fans are now willingly giving him.

***Interesting Note: I just read on a few news articles, including the ESPN site, that "ESPN2 scored its most-watched tennis telecast ever Wednesday night. The Sept. 9 telecast of Roger Federer topping Robin Soderling in four sets, averaged a 1.8 cable rating and 2.32 million watchers, according to Nielsen Media Research data."
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« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2009, 11:51:42 AM »
@Soderking

I just noticed that Soderling has committed to playing in Kualalumpur, which is ATP 250 event.
Unless he is getting paid appearance fees, he should definitely reconsider this decision. He has already done well in 250 events this year.
I don't understand the logic behind this decision making.

To get a "bigger bang for the buck", he should arrive fresh for either the China Open or Japan Open. I am assuming, his main objective for the rest of the year is to go higher in rankings. Starting the AO next year in the Top 8 will ensure that he will go deep and earn more points. There is also a  good chance that he will not bump into Roger or Murray until the Semis.

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« Reply #85 on: September 18, 2009, 07:44:05 PM »
@Soderking

I just noticed that Soderling has committed to playing in Kualalumpur, which is ATP 250 event.
Unless he is getting paid appearance fees, he should definitely reconsider this decision. He has already done well in 250 events this year.
I don't understand the logic behind this decision making.

To get a "bigger bang for the buck", he should arrive fresh for either the China Open or Japan Open. I am assuming, his main objective for the rest of the year is to go higher in rankings. Starting the AO next year in the Top 8 will ensure that he will go deep and earn more points. There is also a  good chance that he will not bump into Roger or Murray until the Semis.



Hi Awk,

I agree with you to some extent, but remember that Robin has always been considered one of the top indoor specialists in Tennis, so this is kind of like his bread and butter. Plus, he is feeling good, got time off during the summer due to his elbow injury, and wants to stay match sharp for the Stockholm Open and upcoming Masters tournaments. He also has one other incentive. He is 15 points away from being in the Top 10 for the first time in his career. Here is an aricle on the tournament. I've put in bold the parts with implications for Robin entering the Top 10 and replacing Giles Simon.

http://www.thesportscampus.com/200909182093/tennis-news/malaysian-open

Tennis stars to descend on Kuala Lumpur

The final major of the year is now behind us and the players are on the home stretch to the year-end championship and the Proton Malaysian Open, Kuala Lumpur 2009 is a tournament that allows them to pick-up those all-important race points as they chase one of the eight places at the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in London.
The Proton Malaysian Open, Kuala Lumpur 2009 is in the first week of the Asian swing of tournaments and the event boasts two from the top ten and seven of the top 20 which is a remarkable field for a first year ATP World Tour 250 event.

"We are working towards creating an experience for the players, fans our sponsors and the media, a week that everyone will have a great time at and certainly remember," Tournament Director Nick Freyer said. "We have a wonderful line up of players, we have a fantastic new Title Sponsor and we have so much for the fans to enjoy during the week.

"No other tournament on the entire Asian swing is probably doing what we are doing for the fans with the prizes that we have to give away, in fact, I cannot think of any tournament on the Tour this year that has given a car away to someone from the crowd.

"From the Proton car to Philips televisions to Mandarin Oriental Hotel stays to Wilson tennis gear through to some delicious treats; the prizes add up to a staggering RM150,000 (USD 43,000), so it's going to be fun and that will only add to the atmosphere at Putra Stadium.

In the latest rankings released this Monday Nikolay Davydenko and Fernando Verdasco have maintained their positions in the world's top ten at eight and nine respectively, and Robin Soderling has moved up one spot to eleven, and is only 15 points away from cracking the top ten for the first time in his career. It has also been confirmed that Fernando Verdasco will be playing his first match on Thursday. As one of four seeded players in the 28 player draw, he receives a first-round bye. Two of the top four seeds will play on Wednesday and two will play on Thursday with all the singles Quarter Final matches to be played on Friday.

"Wouldn't it be amazing for the tournament if Robin's performances in KL allow him to break into the top ten for the first time? That would make KL a very special place for him," Freyer added.


The other leading names coming to the Proton Malaysian Open Kuala Lumpur 2009 have also maintained their ranking positions following the US Open. Fernando Gonzalez is at 12, Gael Monfils is at 13, Tomas Berdych is at 18 and is only five points from 17, and David Ferrer is at 19. All the stars have confirmed their arrival details for Kuala Lumpur and the media will be allowed to meet the stars as they arrive at KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport).

One of the big movers though is Lleyton Hewitt. When Hewitt was announced as coming to the tournament he was ranked 52 in the world, coming out of the US Open, where he was the first player to take a set off Roger Federer, he has jumped to 26.

"Very soon we will be announcing the wild cards and we have some exciting names who have some remarkable stories, for those slots ... as they say ‘watch this space' for the news," Freyer said.

It is going to be a very exciting week at the Proton Malaysian Open Kuala Lumpur 2009.


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« Reply #86 on: September 18, 2009, 07:47:48 PM »
Soderling Levels Up Davis Cup Playoffs for Sweden - Day 1

From http://www.daviscup.com/news/matchreport.asp?articleid=16261

Soderling levels it up
World No. 11 Robin Soderling brought Sweden back level 1-1 with Romania on Friday by demolishing Victor Crivoi 62 61 75 in just one hour and 23 minutes.

Earlier, Romania had taken the lead after Andreas Vinciguerra retired with an injury at two sets to love down against Victor Hanescu.

In a more evenly-fought contest that saw both players hold their serves throughout the two played sets, Hanescu grabbed his lead by the smallest of margins, leading 76(5) 76(10) when Vinciguerra sprained his ankle and opted out.


Soderling takes control

Soderling, looking very comfortable with his booming serve and punishing ground strokes on the indoor surface of Idrottens Hus, was never threatened by the world No. 96.

Serving at 5-4 in the final set, Soderling lost some of his concentration, handing Crivoi a break point by allowing himself to be lobbed. Crivoi broke back with Soderling netting a ball, but the Swede then regained his composure and grabbed two straight games for the win.

“I felt the pressure, but I started very well and that helped me a lot,” said Soderling. “The first two sets were pretty easy, I got an early break. Then in the third he played a bit better and it got a little tougher. Towards the end I slowed down and maybe I lost a little concentration, but overall it was a good match.”

“Soderling was hitting bombs from the beginning and everything went in, so Crivoi couldn’t find any rhythm,” said Romania captain Andrei Pavel. “He (Soderling) is looking very confident and very strong. We’re happy to get this result from today’s matches.”
 
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« Reply #87 on: September 19, 2009, 10:43:12 AM »
Soderling Forced to Play Doubles for Sweden in Davis Cup Rubber To Give Sweden Edge Over Romania 2-1

Robin was pressed into unscheduled doubles play due to the injury to Andreas Vinciguerra, the other singles player for Sweden, who had to default to Victor Hanesku while trailing 6(7), 6(7). Reportedly, it is an ankle sprain and it is unknow whether Vinciguerra will be able to play on Sunday. With Romainia having the much stronger doubles team, and Sweden's victory in doubt due to expected win for Vinciguerra in one of his two matches in singles, Robin was forced to play doubles to secure a 2-1 lead for Sweden. Now all he has to do is beat Hanesku tomorrow to secure the win. Article on Davis Cup site:

"Andreas Vinciguerra had to quit the first rubber against Victor Hanescu due to a sprained ankle, but Robin Soderling got the Swedes level with a straight-sets win over Victor Crivoi.

Robin Soderling and Robert Lindstedt recorded a straight sets win in the doubles rubber to give Sweden a 2-1 lead against Romania.

Soderling and Lindstedt defeated Victor Hanescu and Horia Tecau 61 76(7) 76(5) to put Mats Wilander's side in the driving seat going in to the final day's play in Helsingborg.

More to follow..."
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« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2009, 12:00:29 PM »
Agreed but making into the Top 8 is key for Grand slams. You get easy quarters.
I hope he doesn't run out of steam for marginal benefit
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« Reply #89 on: September 20, 2009, 09:26:16 AM »
Agreed but making into the Top 8 is key for Grand slams. You get easy quarters.
I hope he doesn't run out of steam for marginal benefit

I agree with your concern. He did burn himself winning the Swedish Open right after Wimbledon and then playing the Hamburg Open immediately afterwards. But he had been playing for awhile at that point. Anyway, Magnus and him may have to adjust his schedule if they see a pattern forming. He won all three of Davis Cup matches this weekend (one in doubles) to basically do a one man show for Sweden to enter the World Group next year. But he was able to steamroll his opponents this weekend and played the minimum number of sets (9) for his victories. He rollled Victor Hanesku of Romania today:

Flawless Soderling seals Sweden's World Group spot

Robin Soderling showed his class and convincingly beat Victor Hanescu 75 61 60 on Sunday, handing Sweden the win over Romania and a place in the World Group in next year’s Davis Cup by BNP Paribas.

The world No. 11, playing on his favourite indoor surface in Idrottens Huns in Helsingborg, blasted 17 aces past 28-ranked Hanescu, who crumbled under the pressure of the Swede after a promising opening set.

“It feels fantastic. It was an incredibly important match that we just had to win. Losing just wasn’t in the picture,” said Soderling.

Hanescu runs out of steam

Hanescu kept pace with the Swede in the first set and comfortably held his serve up to 5-5 and then pushed Soderling to deuce in the ensuing game, but never found a chance to break the Swede.

With Soderling leading at 6-5, Hanescu showed some nerves as the Swede got his heavy groundstrokes going. Soderling earned three break points at 0-40 and clinched the set on his second break point with a devastating forehand, and then went on a roll as he grabbed the ensuing five games, breaking Hanescu another two times.

After Soderling had served home the set 6-1, Hanescu seemed to run out of steam as he failed to win another game, allowing Soderling to break him three more times on the way to victory.

“My returning wasn’t too good in the beginning of the first set and it took me a while to really get into the match. But once I found my tempo, he couldn’t keep up,” said Soderling. “I served well and I returned well, everything was on today.”


Soderling made light work of Romania

The win wrapped up a flawless weekend for Soderling, who beat Victor Crivoi in straight sets on Friday and then beat Hanescu and Horia Tecau in the doubles on Saturday alongside Robert Lindstedt.

Asked if he was tired, Soderling said: “I feel pretty good, it was three pretty short matches. All of them in three sets, so it was good. I’ll have a couple of days of rest now and then I’ll probably feel ready for my next tournament (in Kuala Lampur).”

It was Sweden’s second win in as many Davis Cup meetings with Romania. Back in 1979, spearheaded by Bjorn Borg, the Swedes beat Romania in Bucharest.

“He was too strong for me today, he played impressive,” said Hanescu. “First set was pretty good, I was playing very well and it was close, but then he started playing unbelievably. I couldn’t do anything else.”

In the fifth and undeciding match, Andreas Vinciguerra retired against Marius Copil after clinching the first set. On Friday, the injury-plagued Vinciguerra hurt his foot in his match with Hanescu and was forced to retire early in the third set.
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« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2009, 09:35:57 AM »
Robin was a little slow out of the gate but finished strong last night.
An excellent showing!  Looking forward to more of his huge game this fall. :))

 :))

Thanks again, Monstertruck! Are you a big Fed fan?
I like his tennis and he seems like a decent feller.  He's just a bit too metro for me to be a big fan.
The Chief likes him tons, though she wasn't crushed by his loss to DPot. :)
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« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2009, 10:35:21 AM »
Robin was a little slow out of the gate but finished strong last night.
An excellent showing!  Looking forward to more of his huge game this fall. :))

 :))

Thanks again, Monstertruck! Are you a big Fed fan?
I like his tennis and he seems like a decent feller.  He's just a bit too metro for me to be a big fan.
The Chief likes him tons, though she wasn't crushed by his loss to DPot. :)

It is so strange. I have never heard the term "Metro" until I read that blog on Texas about a year ago, and then when reading through and talking in this Forum. The word I always heard to describe what I think you are talking about is "Twee" in the 90's, as in twee pop (Belle & Sebastian, Tullycraft). But that was the 90's term.

You're talking about straight males who don't act macho, right? Back in my parents day, David Niven, Carey Grant or even Tony Randall would've been considered "sophisticated", "educated" and "gentleman" and part of the higher classes. They didn't act like uneducated, "heathen", as would have that kind of stereotype. Thus, it could be an extremely positive thing to not be macho. Obviously, the "macho" thing was popular too with Marlon Brando, but he often played a young, uneducated rebel type.

Paul McCartney, John Lennon and Alan Alda would've been considered the perfect models when I was growing up because the 70's was so liberal, men who are in touch with their feminine sides and not afraid of having compassion and being deep. That was HUGE back then, and men we're encouraged to be multiu-dimensional and not wallow in shallowness. That didn't mean they weren't daring, which they we're, they just thought for themselves and refused to fit into the two dimensional stereotype of the muscle bound male who would earn his credentials via winning battles via physical bludgeonings, instead of using his wits.

But I think we are witnessing the destruction of the Upper Middle Class in the U.S. today, and I think today Cary Grant, David Niven, John Lennon and Alan Alda would be considered "Metro". Since Tennis is a sport based on being a "gentleman", I would think that most male tennis players would be considered "Metro" if that is the case, even Rafa Nadal, Djokovic and Del Pony. Or maybe they don't get labeled because they have European backgrounds? Andy Roddick comes off as "macho". Anyway, interesting discussion....
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« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2009, 11:52:10 AM »
The original use of the term according to Wiki:

Metrosexual man, the single young man with a high disposable income, living or working in the city (because that’s where all the best shops are), is perhaps the most promising consumer market of the decade. In the Eighties he was only to be found inside fashion magazines such as GQ, in television advertisements for Levis jeans or in gay bars. In the Nineties, he’s everywhere and he’s going shopping.

...and...


The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis – because that's where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.
For some time now, old-fashioned (re)productive, repressed, unmoisturized heterosexuality has been given the pink slip by consumer capitalism. The stoic, self-denying, modest straight male didn't shop enough (his role was to earn money for his wife to spend), and so he had to be replaced by a new kind of man, one less certain of his identity and much more interested in his image – that's to say, one who was much more interested in being looked at (because that's the only way you can be certain you actually exist). A man, in other words, who is an advertiser's walking wet dream.[2]





Being open-minded, sophisticated, educated, and a gentleman are all perfectly fine attributes.
I do not find the vanity of the metro appealing.  Rog's man-bag being the perfect example. ;-()

Nice to see Robin stepping up to the plate in Davis Cup play. :))

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« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2009, 12:28:37 PM »
The original use of the term according to Wiki:

Metrosexual man, the single young man with a high disposable income, living or working in the city (because that’s where all the best shops are), is perhaps the most promising consumer market of the decade. In the Eighties he was only to be found inside fashion magazines such as GQ, in television advertisements for Levis jeans or in gay bars. In the Nineties, he’s everywhere and he’s going shopping.

...and...


The typical metrosexual is a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis – because that's where all the best shops, clubs, gyms and hairdressers are. He might be officially gay, straight or bisexual, but this is utterly immaterial because he has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.
For some time now, old-fashioned (re)productive, repressed, unmoisturized heterosexuality has been given the pink slip by consumer capitalism. The stoic, self-denying, modest straight male didn't shop enough (his role was to earn money for his wife to spend), and so he had to be replaced by a new kind of man, one less certain of his identity and much more interested in his image – that's to say, one who was much more interested in being looked at (because that's the only way you can be certain you actually exist). A man, in other words, who is an advertiser's walking wet dream.[2]





Being open-minded, sophisticated, educated, and a gentleman are all perfectly fine attributes.
I do not find the vanity of the metro appealing.  Rog's man-bag being the perfect example. ;-()

Nice to see Robin stepping up to the plate in Davis Cup play. :))



Hi Monstertruck,

Ok, thanks for the explanation. I've rewritten a little of what I wrote below, as I think that things don't really change that much, it's the perceptions of what they are that change. I'm reading the wikipedia entry right now and I see it's such a mixture of different elements, that I'm not sure who I would identify as "metro", although I could see how Fed would be seen as one.  I see this in Wikipedia too:

"The term greatly increased in popularity following Simpson's 2002 Salon.com article "Meet the metrosexual", which identified David Beckham as the metrosexual poster boy. "

-So David Beckham is considered the prime example!!????  :Confused:

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He has clearly taken himself as his own love object and pleasure as his sexual preference. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.


That sounds like the classical definition of "Narcissism" to me.

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Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere.


So a "metro" is basically the male equivalent of a "diva". Does that sound right?

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The stoic, self-denying, modest straight male didn't shop enough (his role was to earn money for his wife to spend), and so he had to be replaced by a new kind of man, one less certain of his identity and much more interested in his image – that's to say, one who was much more interested in being looked at (because that's the only way you can be certain you actually exist). A man, in other words, who is an advertiser's walking wet dream.

Realize the media is always making up new stereotypes and saying people now have to fit into another stereotype they invent. I remember dating in the 90's became next to impossible because a bunch of books like "The Rules" came out and basically labeled all men as being two dimensional sexists and the equivalent of "pets" that all acted and thought the same way. These kind of sterotypes are dangerous, because one could end up being judged as a "type" if they showed traces of one characteristic in the stereotype, and not as an individual, which is a fair way of judging people. It also leads people to trying to fit some image they hear about or see on tv, or even worse, be reactionary and end up acting like a particular archetype to NOT be labeled. The end result is always tragic, one doesn't learn that the answer to avoid oppression in life is to "be yourself" and screw what people think of you.

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Being open-minded, sophisticated, educated, and a gentleman are all perfectly fine attributes.

Cool! That is a relief.

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I do not find the vanity of the metro appealing.  Rog's man-bag being the perfect example.


I agree with you on that one. Roger does come off as a Narcissist, which is mostly why I don't like him very much. The "male purse" thing was nauseating, as was that Wimbledon get-up. I think we're more on the same page than I thought. I just didn't understand what this "metro" thing was about and don't like the implications of another stereotype being used. Because one could be like Roger in some respects (classy like Carey Grant), and then take on the aspects of the other qualities in other people's eyes that don't fit them at all. You know what I mean?

Thanks for educating me on this. I've been pretty much out of the pop-culture scene for quite awhile now. It helps to know what are the latest intepretations so as to have a better understanding. Ultimately, it is best to ignore them and be yourself and let the chips fall where they may though.

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Nice to see Robin stepping up to the plate in Davis Cup play. :))

Thanks, man! He had a fantastic weekend. He beat #28 Victor Hanesku 7-5, 6-1, 6-0 today.
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« Reply #94 on: September 27, 2009, 12:37:04 PM »
Robin, the #3 Seed, Favorite to Win in Malaysia

27 Sep 2009



The Proton Malaysian Open is an indoor hard court tournament that will be taking place this week from September 28th to October 4th.  Several top stars are in the draw including a couple top 10 players.  Here are the odds to win according to bet365 followed by our recommendations:

Robin Soderling: +300 (3/1)
Fernando Verdasco: +350 (7/2)
Nikolay Davydenko: +500 (5/1)
Fernando Gonzalez: +550 (11/2)
Gael Monfils: +600 (6/1)
David Ferrer: +900 (9/1)
Tomas Berdych: +900 (9/1)
Lleyton Hewitt: +1600 (16/1)

Robin Soderling comes in as the 3 seed and yet he, correctly, comes in as the favorite by odds.  His price of +300 is a good one as he has been solid on tour ever since he made the French Open final.  Soderling's draw to the semis does not appear to have a major roadblock with only Tomas Berdych in that section.  After that you would think Soderling would be playing Davydenko, a player Soderling has handled on tour pretty easily lately.

The player in the draw that could give Soderling a tough time is the 2 seed, Fernando Verdasco.  Verdasco has also been on rock on tour lately as, like Soderling, Verdasco is fresh off of a quarterfinal appearance at the US Open.  Prior to that he won the Pen Pilot title which was also a hard court tournament.

A final between those two players should be a very entertaining match but since you have to choose, you should pick Soderling because he is 4-1 against Verdasco in heads up play.

As far as longshots with ability go, Lleyton Hewitt is the player that could run the tables and pay off.  If you only like the long odds then he is player to pick.

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Re: THE ROBIN SODERLING THREAD.... anything about him!
« Reply #95 on: October 01, 2009, 01:00:02 PM »
An article from the Bleacher Report on Robin:

The Season of the Swede
by Nima Naderi



In tennis, the term "specialist" commonly links a player to how they excel on a specific surface. From the perfect slide on clay, to the proper pounding on a hard-court, the distinction of being known as a specialist is a difficult one to achieve.

In practice, one must preform at a high level on their surface of choice in order to obtain the coveted specialist title.

Clay-court king Rafael Nadal holds the label on the dirt (winning four French Open titles), while Roger Federer can lay claim to the lord of the lawns (capturing six Wimbledon crowns).

The label of specialist has been shed to some extent in times, due in large part to the unification of the court surfaces around the world. The tour players have harnessed their skill-sets to adapt to the many different playing fields around the world—but preferences do exist.

Subsequently, there are very few players who relish performing well at the end of the season. Whether it's a trip to the Maldive Islands, or recovering one's body from a grueling season on tour—the end of the season can be taxing for the tour's best.

When autumn hits the ATP World Tour, there's one player in particular whose eyes light up when a roof is put over his head: Sweden's top player, Robin Soderling.

The Swede has mounted what has become a banner year. Highlighted by defeating Rafael Nadal for his first career loss at Roland Garros, the Swede has catapulted his ranking from No. 17 at the start of the season, to its current position of No. 11.

On the heels of his success in Paris, Soderling raced to his best ever finishes at Wimbledon and the US Open (fourth-round and quarterfinals, respectively). He also captured his first ever title on clay, in Bastad.

Although the vast majority of the Swede's success this year has come under the glaring sunshine of the ATP World Tour and Grand Slam venues, the indoor environment is where Soderling does his best work.

Prior to his ground-breaking '09 season, Soderling had captured three tour titles in his career, all on indoor surfaces (Lyon in '04 and '09, and Milan 2005).

In fact, Soderling's appearances in the finals of tour events prior to this year had all taken place on indoor hard-court surfaces, spanning the globe from his home turf in Stockholm, to the United States in Memphis, Tennessee.

Soderling's high ball toss, coupled with his loopy ground-game, have always found serenity when put indoors. The Swede's win-loss record stands at a staggering 74-30 lifetime indoors (.712 winning percentage), which includes a 22-6 mark on carpet-courts.

So what makes Soderling so good when put under a closed roof?

For starters, the Tibro native's style relies heavily on constructing rallies that last under six shots. This tactic is much easier to employ on a slick, indoor surface. Elements such as sun, wind, and humidity are negated, leaving the pure ball-striking of the Monte Carlo resident to flourish.

Soderling's movement also seems to be cleaner and tighter indoors. Regularly seen sprawling for out-wide shots on outdoor surfaces, the indoor courts allow for efficient and calculated steps to both his groundstrokes, leaving his opponents with very few options.
The strike-zones of Soderling are most devastating when taken from hip to shoulder height. The lower, skidding bounce provided by playing indoors lends to the electricity of the Swede's forehand while dominating rallies.

The flat, sledgehammer type forehand has caused many sleepless nights for his tour opponents.

"I always played pretty aggressive ever since I started playing tennis. I like to hit the ball hard, I feel like when I'm playing my best tennis, I'm playing my most aggressive tennis," said Soderling.

After losing to Soderling during the 2008 Regions Morgan Keegan Championships, American Andy Roddick commented on the difficulties of playing the indoor specialist.

"I'm sure if you look at his results on other surfaces, you will find that his win total is probably 50 percent higher indoors," said Roddick.

Roddick was made to repeat those sentiments later in the year, when he lost to Soderling for the second straight time in Lyon, France.

The aggressive demeanor of the Swede is what allows him to compete at his highest level consistently.

"I grew up playing on fast surfaces indoors, and that's how everyone played in Sweden," explained Soderling.

With his confidence skyrocketing after his Roland Garros run, Soderling now believes he is never out of any match that he enters.

"Paris really helped me a lot, since that tournament I raised my level," added Soderling.

Confidence is a beautiful thing if you're a tennis player, and it can make or break a player's season.

With nothing short of the top 10 in sight, the Swede will now focus on qualifying for the prestigious Barclays ATP World Tour Final.

"I try not to think about it too much, there's still a lot of tennis to played this year, but if I can play well in the big tournaments, I will have a chance," said Soderling.

The Swede's chances of qualifying for the final eight event will be heightened with the setting of the sun.

With minimal distractions left in his way, don't be surprised if Soderling captures one of the three remaining positions for the London finale.

The season of the Swede is upon us.

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Re: THE ROBIN SODERLING THREAD.... anything about him!
« Reply #96 on: October 01, 2009, 01:27:01 PM »
Robin defeated Brendan Evans in in the 2nd round of the Malaysian Open, 6-1, 6-1. He broke Brendan's service in five of the seven chances he had. He held all of his own service games. Next up is Tomas Berdych, who he has a 3-2 career head to head advantage.

From The Malaysian Open Website:

The stars of the PROTON MALAYSIAN OPEN KUALA LUMPUR 2009 attended the player party at the Mandarin Oriental Hotel with many of them wearing traditional Malaysian shirts for the evening function. Frenchman Richard Gasquet is in red, Robin Soderling of Sweden is in green, Russian top seed Nikolay Davydenko in blue and Fernando Verdasco, the tournament’s second seed is wearing yellow. In the middle is the Prime Minister of Malaysia Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, his wife First Lady Datin Seri Rosmah Mansor and wearing the suit is the Sports Minister Datu Ahmed Shabery Cheek.


The four players gather in their traditional Malaysian batik shirts made of the softest cotton - Richard Gasquet of France is in red, third seed Robin Soderling of Sweden wore green while the top two seeds, Nikolay Davydenko of Russia and Fernando Verdasco of Spain were presented with, and wore blue and yellow shirts respectively.

All of the top seeds got to the QFs in the Malaysian Open, so some great matches are to be expected this weekend. Here is a quick summary article:

Soderling beats Evans to advance in Malaysian Open
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS (CP) – 23 hours ago

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — Robin Soderling cruised into the quarter-finals of the Malaysian Open on Wednesday by beating Brendan Evans of the United States 6-1, 6-1.

Soderling never lost a point on his booming first serve and broke the American five times to wrap up the win in less than an hour.

"I'm happy to have won pretty quickly and I think the match was under control," the Swede said. "Naturally I place pressure upon myself even though I am the third-seeded player."

Top-seeded Nikolay Davydenko also reached the quarter-finals by overcoming American Taylor Dent 6-3, 7-6, while fellow Russian Mikhail Youzhny ousted wild-card entry Marcos Baghdatis of Cyprus 6-2, 6-3.

In first-round action, fifth-seeded Gael Monfils of France defeated Denis Istomin of Uzbekistan 7-6 (3), 7-6 (2).

Monfils said he felt tired after only landing in Kuala Lumpur earlier Wednesday.

"I didn't have time to recover. It was tough for me," Monfils said. "I just arrived in (Malaysia) today, reached the hotel at nine, just in time for breakfast before heading to the stadium."
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Re: THE ROBIN SODERLING THREAD.... anything about him!
« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2009, 02:53:33 PM »
Thanks, Soderking for this nice photograph.
Robin and Richard look cool, like holidayers in their Batik shirts, Davydenko seems like a member of the school chess team in town for some pre-olympiad party, but Verdasco, is the one who carries it off with typical Spanish flair.  :gleam:
By the way, the dicussion on metrosexuality was fascinating. As you have said, Soderking, most modern tennis players, especially at the top of the tree, are dandies (what with the World Media commitments - soundbites, advertisements, photo shoots, interviews etc). They are young and the huge prize money is very impressionable.
With the stakes so high, not mentioning the Zeitgeist, a top player stands to gain heavily by ensuring he is well-groomed and courteous. If he is termed a metrosexual, then so be it. I am sure, I like Hewitt more now that he is no longer raging come-ons at every drop of the cap. Roddick was so calm at Wimbledon and with his improved play, almost beat Roger for the title.
Machismo and aggression, will remain, for this is a sport, requiring exceptional athletic abilities. Will it come back to the forefront? Now that is a question, worth asking.
Personally, I like this period, when players acknowledge net cords, shake hands at the end, acknowledge winners from the other players etc. This is a sport after all. It also makes good sense from the entertainment business perspective (or maybe the TV Networks prefer the expletive-ridden tirade 'Serena' launched at that lineswoman in the SF against Cljsters). I am glad, even in the high pressure, high stakes world of competetive tennis, there is a place for sensitivity, level-headed-ness.

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Re: THE ROBIN SODERLING THREAD.... anything about him!
« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2009, 03:58:56 PM »
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Thanks, Soderking for this nice photograph.


You're welcome! Thank you Propstoart for starting this thread and writing great things about Robin!

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Robin and Richard look cool, like holidayers in their Batik shirts, Davydenko seems like a member of the school chess team in town for some pre-olympiad party, but Verdasco, is the one who carries it off with typical Spanish flair.  :gleam:


Yea, Fernando carries it off the best. It was a good idea for him to tuck it in as it looks much cooler that way!  :)

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By the way, the dicussion on metrosexuality was fascinating. As you have said, Soderking, most modern tennis players, especially at the top of the tree, are dandies (what with the World Media commitments - soundbites, advertisements, photo shoots, interviews etc). They are young and the huge prize money is very impressionable.


I know. It disturbs me that straight men that are not afraid of their feminine side get labeled every other year by an American society that is so obsessed with two dimensional stereotypes. I love the arts and I love tennis, so people probably label me as "metrosexual" now. They labeled me as "twee" in the 90's. Screw 'em! I'm going to be myself, thanks very much. If one starts acting like someone whose deepest thought is chargrilling burgers and guzzling beer to be "acceptable", they've lost a lot more than they've gained: their self respect, their independence, their interest in life's finer things, their conscience and ultimately their soul. It isn't worth it. It just becomes a pain in the butt to try and convince others that a true rebel doesn't act like Rambo.

You're not from the US, right? I'm guessing educated men who are brought up to be classy, educated and sensitive are not labeled so quickly and so negatively outside this reactionary country. I see you are presently living in India. Have you ever lived in Europe or the United States? Do you generally find the US to be most reactionary place in terms of the "machismo" issue? That has been my experience. The greater the reaction is, the more likely it is that people are putting on masks so they can conform to some archetype so as to NOT be labeled. And then, if you have half a brain and seek the truth within yourself, you wake up one day and realize that the mask you wear in public is not who you really are. Or if you are like the majority of the sheep out there, you never figure out that you are just pure potential, and the rest is driven by outside opinions of what you should be like given your gender, appearance, class, etc. And if one never figures out who/what they really are, that is the tragedy...

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With the stakes so high, not mentioning the Zeitgeist, a top player stands to gain heavily by ensuring he is well-groomed and courteous. If he is termed a metrosexual, then so be it. I am sure, I like Hewitt more now that he is no longer raging come-ons at every drop of the cap. Roddick was so calm at Wimbledon and with his improved play, almost beat Roger for the title.
Machismo and aggression, will remain, for this is a sport, requiring exceptional athletic abilities. Will it come back to the forefront? Now that is a question, worth asking.


I hope not. I am tired of this pressure to act like a two dimensional jerk. I've been facing it since my teens and the hardest part is being misunderstood by the brain washed. Roger and Rafa are good role models for these times. It would help a great deal if an American came off the same way, but I find that possibility unlikely.

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Personally, I like this period, when players acknowledge net cords, shake hands at the end, acknowledge winners from the other players etc. This is a sport after all. It also makes good sense from the entertainment business perspective (or maybe the TV Networks prefer the expletive-ridden tirade 'Serena' launched at that lineswoman in the SF against Cljsters). I am glad, even in the high pressure, high stakes world of competetive tennis, there is a place for sensitivity, level-headed-ness.


I agree wholeheartedly! On Sunday, 60 Minutes had a long segment on "Metrosexuals". Talk about timing. I was feeling sick on this one, seeing it as another attack on men with IQs over 117. Uh-oh, I feel another video coming. This was the underground, rebel anthem of the nineties for the old "twees" and I guess it still applies to those now labeled "metrosexuals":

Sensitive by the Field Mice

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE9JRLwdwno[/youtube]

No real video again, just enjoy the song!  ://
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Re: THE ROBIN SODERLING THREAD.... anything about him!
« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2009, 05:20:25 PM »
Either of you gents ever had a mani or pedicure?

I agree labels are bad.  I take offense at your derogatory use of the term beer guzzling. :))

Seriously though, my perception of the term metrosexual is that he's a feller whose vanity has driven him to be overly concerned with his looks.
Shopping and getting the 'cures mentioned above take precedence.

Not much different than the meathead who pumps iron because he's vain as well.
CONK da ball!!!