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UK General Election
« on: April 08, 2010, 07:52:40 AM »
For the Brits on the board, we have an election coming up on May 6th, my first time voting and I have no clue who to vote for. Labour seem to have done nothing right over the pas few years: we're in two totally unecessary wars, have compiled a mountain of debt and have massively increased spending on public services without an improvement in the service provided. The Conservatives seem like a group of public-school Toffs, the look-at-how-many-super-rich-businessmen-agree-with-me we've seen over the NI plans and the shameful pandering to religious pressure on issues loike abortion and euthanasia have turned me right off, as well as Osbourne appearing to be a total moron. Wtf are they talking about on their ideas of tax breaks for married couples: nobody should or would get/stay married for tax breaks, morons. Then it's the Lib Dems, who I seem to disagree with on everything except their plans to get out of Iraq. I wont vote Green, UKIP or BNP, wtf am I supposed to do? Any thoughts on which party are the lesser evil?

In short, is there any party who want to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan, get rid of state funding for faith schools, increase spending on the NHS, remove prescription charges for all long-term illnesses and tell the Scottish to p!ss off allow the Scottish to have their independence?
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2010, 10:28:55 AM »
I cast my first vote in the 1984 Democratic Primary for.... drum roll   :rim shot:














Jesse Jackson


the alternatives were Walter Mondale and Gary Hart. Mondale won the primary but lost the general to the guy responsible for turning the world economy into the casino for the bankers and multinational corporatists it is today.

So to all the Brits on the board, remember, elections matter :good:
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2010, 12:41:54 PM »
Simple answer to your question Kick is nope there is no Party that will even come close to doing half of those things you hope to see over the coming few years. You have summed up all the Parties bad points extremely well and it just shows right now that really they're all as bad as one another and whoever is in control its not going to be a Government we'll happily see in that position. We know its a straight fight between Labour and the Conservatives, Labour have really done very little to benefit the British people as a majority the last 13 years or so especially the last 4-5 years but we know what they're like because we've experienced it first hand. Whereas the Conservatives will simply always favour the rich and I do worry enormously if they get in how much the taxes will go up for the working and middle class of this country. They are a Party with all this idea's and promises but are failing to give any evidence to back it up and suggest they'll carry out everything they say. Simply because these cuts they talk about making I'd love to know where they plan on getting the money back to make it up as its coming from somewhere. So for me ideally Brown would go from Labour within the next 18 months as I don't think he's the right leader of this country, who replaces him well that's another discussion altogether. But I don't trust politicians at all but the Conservatives I trust even less so I have to say Labour from my point of view seems a slightly safer vote and one more beneficial to the large majority of the British people.

I may add that the voting looks as if it may be that close that with the way the British First Past the Post voting works Labour may get less of a percentage of votes but because of the Seats they already have will actually end up with more seats overall than any other Party and there's a real chance we may be about to see a Hung Parliament.
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 02:47:38 PM »
It makes no difference Tories/Labor, all the same cowards. No one is willing to cut the budget.
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2010, 04:32:29 PM »
Dang, Chris, I don't think you've ever expressed your political views at T4U before :-o
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 12:55:08 AM »
Dang, Chris, I don't think you've ever expressed your political views at T4U before :-o

Nope I don't think I have Babble  :)) I did politics back during my A Levels programme so would prefer to come here for the most part and just get away from other things and just talk tennis and other sports :) so that's why I've never got involved in political discussions.
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 11:17:34 AM »
Dang, Chris, I don't think you've ever expressed your political views at T4U before :-o

Nope I don't think I have Babble  :)) I did politics back during my A Levels programme so would prefer to come here for the most part and just get away from other things and just talk tennis and other sports :) so that's why I've never got involved in political discussions.

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 08:37:39 PM »
Chris, what's going on? I'm confused. :confused1:



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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 11:09:51 PM »
Chris, what's going on? I'm confused. :confused1:

Firstly you should know our voting system of FPTP is flawed in many ways and the percentage of votes doesn't work out equally for each of the Parties, as for instance Labour got 29% of the vote and around 260 seats in Parliament, whereas the Lib Dems got 23% but only 57 seats! If voting was done equally with seat distribution then the Lib Dems would have around 150 seats.

Right now there is no Party here with a majority vote, which you need in this country to have an outright win. Conseratives have the most seats with around 310, but you need 326 in this system to have a majority. Therefore still nothing is clear and not even the Parties know what way this is going yet or for that matter the leaders of each Party. We currently are looking at a Hung Parliament where no Party has a majority, so both the Conservatives and now Labour are trying to get the 3rd placed Lib Dems on one of their sides to form a coalition Government, and those talks are very much ongoing, with the Lib Dems looking for a change in the voting system, to a much fairer one in return for backing 1 of the other 2.

The Labour leader after many calls for it looks as though he will stand down and somebody else will lead the Party and if they stay in power will become the new PM. Gorden Brown is not the right man for that Party is is not liked by many  in this country so he lost Labour a lot of votes by himself. So that's a step in the right direction for Labour.

So still talks are ongoing and a lot still to be decider, its all we get to hear about on the news right now, and that's been the case for the last 5 weeks! And you know the thing is, with the current situation and no majority Party there's a good chance we'll be seeing all this again in 6 months or so with another General election!
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2010, 02:15:49 AM »
You Brits think you're in a difficult situation, but compared to Belgium you have it so easy. Compromising, arguing and everything being unclear is typical policy in Belgium :Confused:.

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2010, 05:11:08 AM »
Yeah, hung parliaments are great, we should have PR so we can do this more often  :whistle:

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 03:20:42 PM »
Now that David Cameron is PM all is right in the world.
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2010, 07:05:17 PM »
Most interesting during this election was the TV Debates

Two rooms:

One full of the General Public WATCHING the Debates:

Those watching said Clegg and Cameron won on STYLE, Not POLICY  :scared:

One full of the General Public LISTENING to the Debates:

Those Listening to said that Gordon Brown WON on POLICY  :whistle:  :whistle:

Style over substance  :whistle:


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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2010, 07:09:31 PM »
Now that David Cameron is PM all is right in the world.

No  :cool:  Who gets the blame when things go wrong?? Tory or Lib's?? That will be interesting though  :gleam:

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2010, 07:50:33 PM »
Now that David Cameron is PM all is right in the world.

No  :cool:  Who gets the blame when things go wrong?? Tory or Lib's?? That will be interesting though  :gleam:



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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2010, 07:17:59 PM »
Now that David Cameron is PM all is right in the world.

No  :cool:  Who gets the blame when things go wrong?? Tory or Lib's?? That will be interesting though  :gleam:



Bottom line is Labor is OUT.

And David Cameron's "Big Society" is in  :whistle:

The "Big Society" that the Conservative ministers couldn't even sell on the door step of the British Public   :scared:  :scared:

One source of the Conservatives said (quote) " the big society, a load of BOLLOCKS"   ;-()

The "Big Society" Cameron's idea failed on the door step of the British Public, David Camerons bright idea of the Big Society made his own ministers look like idiots, none of them could sell to the British Public, even Nick "I love Power over my own Policies" said it was pathetic, now he has had u-turn of great propotion  :rofl_2:, he now likes the idea  ..-)

My problem with this "Big Society" is, if and I say if, it fails, who gets the blame???????

The Tory Party bring it in, the Lib Dems don't like it, then they get some power and they like it, but lets think about it, the Tories idea was the "Big Society" yet have shifted all responsibilites to us the general public, so I ask again, who gets the blame if it all goes wrong???????

I say again the "Big Society" idea failed on the door step of the General Public!!!!!!!!!!

Who is to blame if it all goes wrong?????????  :)
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2010, 07:40:04 PM »
Alison - bottom line Gordon Brown is pathetic. Of course you would have him run the UK into the ground because you HATE Tories.
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2010, 07:42:38 PM »
Alison - bottom line Gordon Brown is pathetic. Of course you would have him run the UK into the ground because you HATE Tories.

Hate the Tories??  Lets think about this, It's hard not to, if you lived under them  :)

Under the Tories I shared school books with 3 other classmates, under Labour children had a book for them each!!!!! NOT SHARING BOOKS BECAUSE THE TORIES WAS SO s**tE!!!!! (For those people who are so scared of Capital letters, chill out)

Under the Tories my classroom was s**tE, NO MONEY PUT INTO MY EDUCATION UNDER THE TORIES!!!!!!!!!!!

The Tory Government in full flow:

The Conservative leader of Staffordshire County Council called for AIDS victims to be dealt with by GASSING GAY MEN AND POLICE OFFICERS!!!!!!!!!!!

A typical gem from Conservatives: " If you want a QUEER FOR YOUR NEIGHBOUR, VOTE LABOUR"
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A typical Tory voter (on the streets of Britain) when asked if they are worried about the NHS,

"I am RICH ENOUGH AND CAN GO PRIVATE" !!!!!!!!  Typical Tory's, forget the Poor, think about the RICH

Tory Pary = THE RICH

 :cool:  :gleam:

Hate them, NO, I just DON'T AGREE WITH THEM and their Policies  :)
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 12:01:40 AM »
Allison - and under Labor the UK is bankrupt.
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 07:06:49 AM »
Allison - and under Labor the UK is bankrupt.

The UK, and a host of other European countries (Greece, anyone?). I think we can thank our American friends for that.

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