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Re: English Football
« Reply #340 on: July 15, 2013, 07:11:26 PM »
Also I don't care about about some montenegrian guy  :)~

My country's gone since 2006 anyway  ..-)
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Re: English Football
« Reply #341 on: July 15, 2013, 07:24:56 PM »
Bahh there's huge money involved I agree. But to say that you can buy title, is a bit off. Take a look at Real Madrid for example. With all the players they have and all the money they have they haven't been even in the CL finals since 2001.

Money is a problem so as selling/buying players, but at least that gave some popularity.

I don't know about MLS, but all I read is that for the last two times LA def. Houston. Sounds like no competition there.

What German clubs did this year at CL is another example how there's still chance of beating big money clubs.

Don't be ridiculous.

Beckham was in LA for 5 years and never won diddly poo. Finally won in years 6 & 7. Houston was the last team to make the playoffs. LA was 4th in their conference. San Jose and Kansas City ran away from the pack but got knocked out in the playoffs. That's what I mean. Any team can win. 2012 wasn't unusual.

And you want to compare that to Man United? They've won like 80% of the titles since the EPL was created.

Man City goes on a rabid spending spree and immediately wins the EPL.

What on earth are you talking about. Madrid won La Liga in 2011-12, dude.
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Re: English Football
« Reply #342 on: July 15, 2013, 07:35:11 PM »
I was talking about Champions League in regard to Real Madrid. CL is after all the most prestigious tourney in the world.

Also what Man City is doing is despicable but it has been happening before so thats unfortunately the current state in football.
And the same Man City got knocked out of CL group stage TWICE.

And you really believe Beckham came to LA to win titles?  ..-) How much are they paying him?
I told you I don't know anything about MLS but don't think european guys go there to win titles in their late career.
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Re: English Football
« Reply #343 on: July 15, 2013, 07:50:14 PM »
Ha ha!

Touche'

MLS
There are nuances since the MLS has a salary cap. Beckham was a "Designated Player." Each team has 3 DPs. +15% of a team's total salary is charged to a single DP. So 3 DPs could be close to 50% of a teams total salary.

Not perfect, since LA and NY have the deepest pockets, but pretty fair system, nonetheless. :good:  And the system bears it out. NY has never won a title. Only made 1 final.
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Re: English Football
« Reply #344 on: July 15, 2013, 07:58:16 PM »
I hate big industries in sports, but it is what it is. No one can grant you titles even with the best players all together.
I'd be the happiest person if EPL bring finally that rule of at least 6 homegrown players in the 1st team but whatever.

The more I think about it(the industry and bookies) I'm disgusted. But seriously I've stopped worrying about that since there's nothing much to do about it but try and watch matches as ignorant as I can. It's easier.

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Re: English Football
« Reply #345 on: July 15, 2013, 08:00:36 PM »
Any thoughts about our salary cap and DP system?
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Re: English Football
« Reply #346 on: July 15, 2013, 08:06:01 PM »
I only know what you just told me. So I haven't given it too many thoughts.
But I think almost 50% of teams salary is a bit too much for 3 players, 'celebrities' or not.

The way I see it MLS is in a desperate need of promoting itself. I think they are trying to do what best european leagues are doing. All these DP players are there for marketing stuff, promoting etc.

I could be also very wrong, I dunno....
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Re: English Football
« Reply #347 on: July 15, 2013, 08:23:56 PM »
That is if I got the dp rule which I only found out about now.

But if it is like I think it is, that would mean much less money for other non-Dplayers.
Less money=less motivation. Less motivation=less work/quality.
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Re: English Football
« Reply #348 on: July 15, 2013, 11:52:31 PM »
Teams can sign 0 to 3 DPs. The less you spend on DPs, the more you spend building your team with good signings. Salaries are very low for non-designated players, average $103,000 (median $75,000, high $600,000) but motivation is very high. These guys are fighting to play professional soccer for a living. For some, it's an audition for European Leagues. For others, like Latin Americans and Africans, it's living in United States and playing professional soccer.

Motivation is high.

Salaries
http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/mls/

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Robbie Keane has overtaken Thierry Henry as the player with the highest base salary in the league ($4 million to Henry's $3.75 million).

Taking Designated Players out of the equation, the average player will make $102,661.81 in 2012. In an increase from last year, 62 players will make the minimum $35,125 (43 did last year). That minimum number is up from $33,750 last year, signifying a 4 percent increase.



Chicago has 2 DPs right now and they are awful!  :rofl_2:  Our highest paid at $400,000 is a Dutch striker and is on the bench. The other, Uruguayan, is loaned out to Qatar.
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Re: English Football
« Reply #349 on: August 16, 2013, 08:45:49 AM »
Arsenal

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Re: English Football
« Reply #350 on: August 16, 2013, 11:06:18 AM »
who?  :)~
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Re: English Football
« Reply #351 on: August 17, 2013, 05:50:52 PM »
Another banner year for the Gunners...  :\
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Re: English Football
« Reply #352 on: September 12, 2013, 09:33:03 PM »
Gunners bounce back with win over Spurs!

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Re: English Football
« Reply #353 on: September 12, 2013, 09:35:15 PM »
We're #7!!!!
competitiveness + attendance

MLS ranked 7 best football league in world! And the joke is on Europe.

One of the reasons the MLS has vaulted up the rankings may be parity of play. Many of the world's top leagues are dominated by a small group of elite teams. Manchester United recently won its 20th league title, and fifth in seven years. Bayern Munich has won five of the last 10 Bundesliga titles, and nine of the last 10 La Liga titles have been won by either Real Madrid or Barcelona.

In contrast, five different teams have won the MLS Supporters' Shield for best record, and seven different teams have hoisted the MLS Cup in the last decade.

MLS is doing things the right way. The EPL, La Liga and Serie A have all seen huge clubs falling to mismanagement and bankruptcy in recent years. There is no chance of that happening in MLS. 


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Re: English Football
« Reply #354 on: March 22, 2014, 12:58:07 PM »
There's nothing like dismantling Arsenal 6-0  :gleam: :rofl_2:
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