This is simply a straw man argument, no one is claiming all wars or all violence are committed in the name of religion, In fact in a technical sense very few wars have been acted out in the name of religion.
iíve already given examples of benign religious communities and militant secular ones, though whether we countries like the US as technically secular is debatable. .
The claim is rather that as a fact religion is often oppressive and anti egalitarian.
Itís the coercive and manipulative nature of religion that exists within societies that is core of the problem, it acts as a covert controlling agent able to manipulate the feelings of citizens-again not in all cases but in many.
Take Iran, where women, homosexuals, apostates etc are oppressed, this is a fact. But Iran hasnít invaded another country in about 200 years, and the Iran Iraq war was supported by the West, and was for the main part secular-the West happy to supply arms to the Sadham regime.
The second world war is a very good example of this. The Vatican which has been criticised for not speaking out against Nazi atrocities, was active in supporting Fascism in Italy, Spain and most brutally in Yugoslavia.
In Italy for example, the Vatican saw the emerging fascism as a bulwark against both secularism and communism-it used itís power subtly to manipulate the situation. While it didnít actively speak out in support of the regime,
it condemned socialist activity, and encouraged clerics to condemn members of Ďsubversiveí ie anti fascist groups, having your immortal soul in danger of eternal damnation is certainly and inducement to cooperate with totalitarianism.
The catholic churches in Spain, Germany (although catholicism was smaller in that country) and Serbia engineered the situation where fascism was accepted.
Indeed during World war II, there was widespread persecution of Serbs, with the Croatian Ustase-many catholic priests, murdering thousands of Serbs, and thousands were forced to convert to Catholicism. The victims were predominantly Serbs, but also included Jews.
Jews were obviously both an ethnic, but more significantly religious group-Christian hostility to Jews is a historic reality-though of course World war II, was never fought on a religious basis, but it was part of the German characture at the time.
To suggest World war to was a secular war is only partially true, behind the scenes religion was pulling strings and helping to create myths.
Certainly iím opposed to totalitarianism and oppression in all itís forms from Stalinism to fascism, and secular hegemony-iíve already added points regarding US hegemony on this site and didnít feel the need to balance that with a comment with one on religious hegemony, although it undoubtedly exists. But religion is de facto totalitarianism without the need for standing armies and weapons. Within Christianity you can be punished for all eternity for thought crimes-you are judged constantly by a supernatural dictator, and if you get it wrong, into the flames you go....now thatís totalitarianism.
Yes, Ayatollahs in Saudi Arabia and Madrases in Pakistan ask the YOUNG kids to throw bombs...that's Religion asking to throw bombs; you can't have the cake and eat it too.
hunting, ^^ that's your quote.
Could you please tell me who or what was behind that atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima near the end of WWII and destroyed the city almost completely?
Also, do you think it was Hitler's religion that led him to nearly end the Jewish community? Over 60 million people were killed in that war. And when you reply, please do not mix Nazi with Religion.
And while you are at it, please free to explain WWI and the reasons why the casualties of that war saw more than 35 million.