Topic: Why the "GOAT" thing doesn't really matter

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and regarding factual evidence, i don't know what i can present before you here......it's mainly my observation......he plays quite a few tournaments but not all with the same intensity.......

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Let's say for argument Nadal wins a few more slams and Federer fails to win an addition one. Then people will be arguing for ages who is the real GOAT. Imagine if Roger had run away with the sport like Graf and won 18-20 slams already. Tennis would be boring and nobody would be arguing about anything. Also does Roger's VIP lifestyle get diminished from "disputed' GOAT-status one bit? No! Everything is fine and all this endless shouting matches between fandoms is hilarious.

and to throw a final answer here,

why the GOAT thing doesn't really matter - because fedtards are afraid of fed's tainted legacy as nadal's pigeon.......it's better of not having the GOAT concept at all than to see someone else as the GOAT right? 

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I've yet to see anything other than opinions offered as proof of such.

Would love to take a look at any facts folks might have to offer up as a basis for their opinions.

Correct me if I'm wrong Shanks-  you're saying he's slower when he's overbooked.  Consequently he's cut back on his schedule and now is just as fast as ever.  Is that right?

yes, almost as fast as ever in slams.......i have noticed particularly last year that he is not caring for anything but slams and is just unloading in slams.......i think that approach is mainly responsible for his top movement in slams even at 30.......it's not that he's cutting back much on his schedule, but you can see he doesn't waste many reserves for unnecessary tournaments.......

I agree that he is conserving energy.
As to actual speed of foot, we'll have to await a more accurate measurement than just our observations.

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I've yet to see anything other than opinions offered as proof of such.

Would love to take a look at any facts folks might have to offer up as a basis for their opinions.

Correct me if I'm wrong Shanks-  you're saying he's slower when he's overbooked.  Consequently he's cut back on his schedule and now is just as fast as ever.  Is that right?

yes, almost as fast as ever in slams.......i have noticed particularly last year that he is not caring for anything but slams and is just unloading in slams.......i think that approach is mainly responsible for his top movement in slams even at 30.......it's not that he's cutting back much on his schedule, but you can see he doesn't waste many reserves for unnecessary tournaments.......

I agree that he is conserving energy.
As to actual speed of foot, we'll have to await a more accurate measurement than just our observations.

Why wait, you have the internet to try and disprove it.
 
I'm not so worried about court speed, it's the other areas like the forehand being not as reliable,
the serve taking short vacations and whole match intensity.
 
He looked pretty good against Nadal, but goes off of what's working at times IMO.
 
Fed's already done enough, the others can stand in line and try to match some of those records.
 
I agree with some that he saves himself for the slams, trying in every tournament seems to be too much.
 

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5 straight USO's.
5 straight Wimbledon's.
6 WTF's.
18/19 slam finals.
23 straight slam SF's.
237 straight weeks at #1.

Fed haters take off the blinds. 

We know all of this and don't need to be reminded.

We have a greater task at hand than counting.

We need to explain to the world how those number were compiled. 

As for being a hater. I'm a Fedtard hater.   

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I've yet to see anything other than opinions offered as proof of such.

Would love to take a look at any facts folks might have to offer up as a basis for their opinions.

Correct me if I'm wrong Shanks-  you're saying he's slower when he's overbooked.  Consequently he's cut back on his schedule and now is just as fast as ever.  Is that right?

yes, almost as fast as ever in slams.......i have noticed particularly last year that he is not caring for anything but slams and is just unloading in slams.......i think that approach is mainly responsible for his top movement in slams even at 30.......it's not that he's cutting back much on his schedule, but you can see he doesn't waste many reserves for unnecessary tournaments.......

I agree that he is conserving energy.
As to actual speed of foot, we'll have to await a more accurate measurement than just our observations.

Why wait, you have the internet to try and disprove it.
 
I'm not so worried about court speed, it's the other areas like the forehand being not as reliable,
the serve taking short vacations and whole match intensity.
 
He looked pretty good against Nadal, but goes off of what's working at times IMO.
 
Fed's already done enough, the others can stand in line and try to match some of those records.
 
I agree with some that he saves himself for the slams, trying in every tournament seems to be too much.

There's nothing to disprove.
It has yet to be proven that he's lost anything.

As to the FH issues, I think that goes hand in hand with the mental lapses you mention.  I wonder how much of this has to do with intensity or confidence.  Especially for someone who thinks so highly of himself.