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Your "Dream Final"
« on: January 28, 2012, 03:01:21 PM »
I bring this up because I think you guys are crazy. Specifically, how can your dream final be contested between your two all-time favorite players? And what's worse, how can you take delight in one creaming the other? How is this a win-win situation?

Let me give you my dream final and explain why.

McEnroe v. Connors or Lendl

Johnny Mac is my all-time favorite player of ALL-TIME. Connors and Llendl were his chief rivals and nemeses, and I disliked them, fiercely as well.  There's no hedging my bets. If McEnroe wins, Woo Hoo!! If he loses, turn off the tele and get some fresh air because it's going to take time for this to wear off.

I suppose a lot of you are thinking Laver-Federer or something of the sort. But that's not what I'm looking for.

I'm asking, is your dream final contested by your 2 favorite players or your favorite player and his/her Nemesis or something else?
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 03:38:28 PM »
Well...

If I had to pick a dream final, I think we will see it tonight.  But that is just the current dream final picked from today's players.  These two dudes are so raw nasty that it could be an amazing show down.  I think it just depends on how well Nole recovers from the Murray match.  But to get to what you want to discuss...

I did not see any tennis when it was Connors or Lendl so those guys do not intrigue me.  Not to say I do not have any respect for them, but I never saw them play and compete so it would not be a dream for me to see them fire away at one another.

The two big rivalries for me, if you want to call them that would be Sampras / Agassi and Fed / Nadal.  Of the two, I always enjoyed the Sampras vs Agassi match up.  Contrasting styles, two amazing players, both good at totally different things.  Just thinking of their match ups is making me want to change my initial answer of (Fed vs Sampras) to Agassi vs Sampras. 

I would like to see an in-form Sampras play Nadal.  There you have the contrasting styles again.  I think Nadal's forehand would chew a hole right through Sampras' backhand though which would be way rough for Sampras on Nadal's service games.

I guess I have no real ideal final, just fun match ups to watch.  Preferably not at 3:30 A.M. EST.
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 03:41:16 PM »
For me my 'Dream Final' had to happen once. When you've supported 2 players from being nobody's, ranked outside the top 150 and then see them going on to face each other on the biggest stage of all a Grand Slam Final that's a pretty special feeling. Seeing them walk out together, stand at the net together, take on each other, compliment each other in their speeches and be together at the presentation is pretty surreal when you have seen 2 players grow up, develop and make the most of what they've got and conquer everybody else in the draw.

That being said there is the other side to it when its all over and done with. Today for me I've had very contrasting emotions. It doesn't feel as special or how it should given Victoria's just won her first Slam. Knowing she's proven me right, proved so many people wrong(some here, especially you Bab) she's worked so hard for this, overcome the tough times with the injuries and near retirement from the game and become a Grand Slam Champion and the World number 1 it just doesn't feel quite as it should right now.

That's because the pain, devastation and hurt I at the same time feel for Maria right now. Knowing how hard she has worked to come back I am so desperate to see her win another Slam title and to suffer a defeat like that in a Final like this is just heart breaking it really is :( After that sort of defeat I'm just so relieved that Maria already has her place in Australian Open history with her 2008 win :)

Today I knew 1 of my girls was going to be the Australian Open Champion and World Number 1 so it had already sunk in so there was that incredible joy and disbelief so it may be a good thing if this didn't happen on a regular basis. This may just be slightly different for me though Bab as I've supported Maria from when she was 15 and Vika since she was 17 and I always dreamt from early on they'd be Grand Slam Champions and if I'm honest I've put some parts of my life on hold while their career's go on(simply will never set foot out of the house when they play, relationships put on hold, thousands spent seeing them play, hundreds of hours of sleep missed I could go on) so I always wanted and hoped to see them both as Champions and both as number 1's. That dream was completely realised today and its pretty awesome you know to have randomly picked 2 players and seen them grow into Champions. I haven't just picked a player doing well and already near the top of the game, I've picked 2 girls who I thought could do something and that and so much more they've done. So I may be hurting for Maria for a long time to come over this defeat as she'll always be my number 1 as everybody knows but in the bigger picture this is massive for Victoria's Grand Slam journey and for realising my dream of Maria and Victoria being Grand Slam Champions and World Number 1's :)

Whereas for the Men although I always favour and like Rafa much more than the others my Dream Final there is simply just the 2 best players at the time so I can enjoy a great match.
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 04:44:56 PM »
So, for you Scott, your dream final doesn't necessarily have to include your favorite player. You'd be equally happy with the top 2 players as you would with, say, Federer v Djokovic?





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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 04:48:34 PM »
So, for you Scott, your dream final doesn't necessarily have to include your favorite player. You'd be equally happy with the top 2 players as you would with, say, Federer v Djokovic?





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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 05:04:08 PM »
And I got under your skin to boot!!!

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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 05:05:40 PM »
Still, this is a question that I really am curious about.
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 05:07:54 PM »
I've given you my answer so I can go back into hiding now :)~
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 05:11:33 PM »
I should just add too. If you want your 2 favourite players in the Final to make a 'Dream Final' it has to be pretty close otherwise you end up with extremely mixed emotions and can't enjoy the winners success as much as you'd like to and feel awful for the runner up who has taken a beaten. For me personally its great I now have both Maria and Victoria as Grand Slam Champions but what is not great at all and made me feel 'indifferent' today is seeing Maria take such a beatdown on the biggest stage :(
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 07:09:30 PM »
great to see you back Chris!!! Hope everything is well!

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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 07:11:34 PM »

My dream final would be Nadal vs Djokovic on clay in best of 5 sets. Hope it happens at the french this year.




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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 07:30:42 PM »
Keep posting here Chris, this place needs you!!

Dream finals based on what? This is a very ambiguous question. Firstly players vary a lot with eras, and their techniques have changed with technology. I cannot talk of laver vs fed, look at the difference in their heights! Nadal wouldn't be the player that he is with a wooden racket either.

I wanted to see henin vs maursesmo at RG finals, didn't happen. Nole-Rafa is good enough for me. They are both fantastic athletes and have awesome groundstrokes. On clay, both in their very best would be something to watch for sure. Fed-Rafa on grass a la the wimby 2008 would be something I would take any day. The thrill I have while watching these two play, as redundant as it might get, is unmatched.


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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 08:43:49 PM »
How much spoon feeding do you need, falcon.

Your response makes perfect sense to me.

I want to see my favorite play his nemesis. Today, I'd love to see Gasquet (favorite) v. Nadal at RG = sane

Chris loves that his 2 favorite players (Maria and Vika) are facing each other despite there being some residual mixed emotions = Class A Crazy

Some of the others who've responded seem content with whoever is there or, more specifically, the top two players. In other words, your dream final doesn't have to involve your favorite player = Class B Crazy


IIRC, falcon, your favorite player is Rafa, so you are sane. I'm asking for your personal dream final. Why wouldn't you want to see your favorite player in it? Of course you would!!
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 09:01:42 PM »
Lol.  Band feels the need to try to insult 2 people in one post to make himself feel better...
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 09:46:10 PM »
It would probably be my nightmare if I see Ivanisevic vs Rafa. They are equally important for me. I can't see them playing each other.


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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 11:51:03 PM »
It would probably be my nightmare if I see Ivanisevic vs Rafa. They are equally important for me. I can't see them playing each other.

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Exactly falconi!

It can be none other than a nightmare. And if I were Chris, I'd be miserable watching my ALL-TIME favorite, John McEnroe, lose 12 of the final 13 games in a 1'22" match to Jim Courier, my second generation favorite player.  :sick:   ;>)

I only brought this question up because Dallas and Chris were carrying on about this being Chris's dream final. But those two are complete lunatics, so I pretty much took it with a grain of salt. It wasn't until I read this from an otherwise rational poster that I was compelled to start this thread.

Howdy Chris!
This final must have been a win-win situation for you!

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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2012, 01:48:31 AM »
great to see you back Chris!!! Hope everything is well!

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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2012, 01:57:30 AM »
As I say Bab it had to happen once for me to see the 2 girls I've grown up supporting as the last 2 players standing at a Grand Slam. Obviously the way the Final panned out and went wasn't ideal at all as I was hoping for a 3 set match which was like 6/4 or 7/5 in the 3rd set. That would have been perfect. But on paper for at least 1 Final this was my Dream Final wasn't it. You didn't think once Victoria had made the Final I was going to suddenly start cheering for a player I dislike enormously in Kvitova did you? Also to see Victoria get her 1st ever Slam title after the injuries, almost retiring from the game just 10 months ago and knowing that she proved me right with my faith in her and soooo many people wrong with their doubts is a pretty awesome feeling.

Its happened once now so in my ideal world from this point next Slam Final Maria plays I'd either hope it was Serena Williams who she beat love and love, or a player outside the top 20 who Maria beats up on. For Victoria ideally her next Final would be vs Wozniacki or Kvitova who she beats love and love or again a player outside the top 20 who Vika beats up on. Its happened once now, I can look back in 30 years time and remember the 2 girls I picked from very young ages played each other in a Grand Slam Final and for the World Number 1 ranking. The scoreline is not something I'd like to remember but the pure matchup for a Final like this I always want to remember. You gotta remember with me as well when Maria and Victoria are gone and retired then I'll never have favourite players again. I wanted a player or 2 early in their career, see how they did and follow them all the way, so they'll never be replaced and I'll never have favourite players again when they're gone, instead just enjoying the tennis. So I want the 2 of them to maximise every chance they get, both of them win all 4 Slams, both be World Number 1, both do well at the Olympics, both stay injury free, but most importantly both continue to enjoy their tennis and their lives and love the game.

Finally you can have a Dream Final matchup on paper on the Friday BUT it doesn't mean on the Saturday the Final goes as a 'Dream' it didn't for me, so the matchup at least once was a dream but the scoreline most definitely was anything but.
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2012, 02:06:52 AM »
It would probably be my nightmare if I see Ivanisevic vs Rafa. They are equally important for me. I can't see them playing each other.

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Exactly falconi!

It can be none other than a nightmare. And if I were Chris, I'd be miserable watching my ALL-TIME favorite, John McEnroe, lose 12 of the final 13 games in a 1'22" match to Jim Courier, my second generation favorite player.  :sick:   ;>)

I only brought this question up because Dallas and Chris were carrying on about this being Chris's dream final. But those two are complete lunatics, so I pretty much took it with a grain of salt. It wasn't until I read this from an otherwise rational poster that I was compelled to start this thread.

Howdy Chris!
This final must have been a win-win situation for you!

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You should know better than that! :rofl_2:

The double entendre was that no matter who won he'd be happy and yet he must have been gutted that Maria got thrashed.  How does one reconcile those emotions?  'Twould be like forcing me to pick which one of my daughters had to die.
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Re: Your "Dream Final"
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2012, 02:21:34 AM »
Ha! Don't I know it!
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