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Offline williamchung7

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Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« on: August 27, 2012, 07:17:59 PM »


Roger Federer counters comments made by John McEnroe and Andre Agassi that this is the toughest era in men's tennis, with the so-called Big Four of Federer, Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal, and Andy Murray winning almost every significant tournament.
 
“I'd say no, but I don't know,” Federer told reporters. “Just because you look back maybe 15 years, then you have Sampras, Edberg, Becker, and Agassi, I don't know who else. Those guys weren't good or what? You look back, further back, 20 years, and you have the Connors and the Lendls. Those weren't good either? I mean, I don't know. So for me I think that's respectful.
 
It's just different times and definitely more athletic, there's no doubt about that. But then again we don't play doubles. We don't play mixed. Maybe we play less matches today because it's more taxing, but we do play less best of five set tennis than they used to play.
 
You can't compare really, but we have somewhat of a golden era right now. I feel that truly. It's nice to see Andy making his move at the Olympics, nice to see Novak having an absolutely ridiculous year last year, and then Rafa and myself still being around. It's definitely good times. Past that you still have great champions as well. It's very interesting at the top right now, and the depth I think has never been greater than right now. But then best ever? The four of us? That's a really difficult call.”
 
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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2012, 07:30:39 PM »
good article. i saw that a couple of days ago and posted it at the sports bar here.

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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2012, 10:29:53 PM »
Fed is such class act  :gleam:
he has so much respect for all great players  and never miss to  compliment their achievements   :)

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whole interview - UO pre event presser  can be seen on http://www.usopen.org/

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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 02:58:01 AM »
I am a real Federer fan, but I do have to agree with Fed... True, right now the top 4 are "miles" away from the rest of the field, true that they play great tennis and gives a show, true that most of the times you have the top 4 at SF at any GS... But to discount the likes of Edberg, Sampras, Borg, McEnroe, Connors, Laver, Lendl, etc. is just really disrespectful for those players.


They used to play doubles and sometimes even mix doubles, they used to play a lot more than the ones of today (except for probably Nadal :)) ), but now its a different ball game and is really more demanding on the body.


And what I really like about his interview is that he states things like they are. You cannot compare eras, players or surfaces, it is just a sooo different ball game right now. Sure I love to watch Federer play, but I loved watching Pat Cash play, Edberg play.. That's a whole different ball game.. I used to love S&V "specialists". I mean, there is no way you can compare eras or who would be on top, you can't simply do that.


How easy would be to Fed just to say that everybody was right and that they are the golden era in the ATP? It would be just too easy, instead he takes the high road and just let it down as it is, or as he feels it. I really enjoyed it.

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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 05:07:42 AM »
No need for Fed to toot his own horn.
Plenty of others to do it for him.
Comparing players across generations has always seemed ridiculous to me due to the nearly infinite # of variables.
I prefer to think of matchups I'd love to see.
Borg v. Nadal @ RG
Laver v. Sampras @ Wimby
Hoad v. Djoker @ AO
Tilden v. Agassi @ USO
JMac v. Fed @ Wimby

and on and on....
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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 08:34:41 AM »
No need for Fed to toot his own horn.
Plenty of others to do it for him.
Comparing players across generations has always seemed ridiculous to me due to the nearly infinite # of variables.
I prefer to think of matchups I'd love to see.
Borg v. Nadal @ RG
Laver v. Sampras @ Wimby
Hoad v. Djoker @ AO
Tilden v. Agassi @ USO
JMac v. Fed @ Wimby

and on and on....


These match-ups are never going to be decided but its fun musing over them. But I believe there will be bias in thinking because of the athleticism, power of this era. You will always see in your mind's eye a Borg with a wooden racquet and a Nadal running all over the place with a graphite racquet. If only a simulation software could be written . . . .
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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2012, 09:52:18 AM »
No need for Fed to toot his own horn.
Plenty of others to do it for him.
Comparing players across generations has always seemed ridiculous to me due to the nearly infinite # of variables.
I prefer to think of matchups I'd love to see.
Borg v. Nadal @ RG
Laver v. Sampras @ Wimby
Hoad v. Djoker @ AO
Tilden v. Agassi @ USO
JMac v. Fed @ Wimby

and on and on....


These match-ups are never going to be decided but its fun musing over them. But I believe there will be bias in thinking because of the athleticism, power of this era. You will always see in your mind's eye a Borg with a wooden racquet and a Nadal running all over the place with a graphite racquet. If only a simulation software could be written . . . .
True dat.
Today's players do appear to be more fit in general.
No way to compare apples to apples, just to darn many variables.
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Re: Big four maybe not best ever: Federer
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2012, 07:02:16 PM »
Thanks for this, It was very intresting to hear Feds point of view on it