i'm not interested in Carl bloody Jung, and i don't' get what his patented brand of psychobabble has to do with the apparent irreconcilability of divergent political and moral positions anyway. Even if his assertions about the innateness of certain aspects of character actually turned out to be the case, how would that shed light on this issue?
This is how it sheds light on the issue m8
Hi Emma, i wont' quote you directly, because we end up with those bulky posts, so i'll respond to your post in this one.
If you are talking about our moral and political views, then I don't think they're natural at all, there may be certain innate biases that may push our morality in certain directions, but civilisation and our moral and political cultures are far more about taming or curtailing those instincts rather than allowing them to flourish.
Morality, unlike language, has to be taught - there are studies showing how often parents inculcate infants with moral values and reprove them etc and its quite astonishing, it's hundreds of times a day.
You see, you have been trying to convince your readers morality has to be learnt..... The spiritual "core" to which people arrive at the end of the individuation process guarantees people can't be conditioned (at least when it comes to mature people who know who they are) to be morally inclined to do one thing or another, vote this way or that.... It would be better to call what you're talking about manipulation and manipulated behaviour, not (true) morality...
When people have gone through the individuation process Jung describes in his books then they can't really be taught morality..... That's my point.....
BTW I was rofling at the image of Emma and her ex almost breaking up cause of the puppy issue, so redneck
BTW I understand the hostility to Jung, he could think out of the box and he's a real Clydey (the stereotypical western philosopher) killer
If i'm allowed to ramble 1 or 2 or 3 lines more, no wonder Clydey (like most western philosophers) doesn't really know who he is and he said his life's purpose was to create something big for Scotland's glory (again so redneck
I hope btw Emma returns to you m8, patronizing her must be a real sexual experience for you and it's so cute when she's showing off her expertise on Quantum Physics
(she always manages to do that no matter what the discussion is about
On a serious note, this is the problem with discussions like this....... ofc people can't prove they experienced something like mystical individuation, but you can't prove either there's nothing innate about morality....
The same goes for some new branches of medical science and healing.... Some western docs believe in and work with meridians some other docs deny even their existence...... And the people who claim they experience the flow of energy in them ofc can't prove they do so...... at least for now.....