Topic: 2012 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals, 11/5-12/2012

[Start da Game]

avan, he saw djokovic's name on the towel and yet he din't move from there.......that is very careless, rude, sore, bitter and awkward i am afraid to say.......

props, age is insignificant when he keeps moving like that and keeps producing tennis like that......fed is still in his peak, it's just that these days he has to deal with 3 to 4 players who can beat him on a given day.......personally i think 2010 and 2011 were his best years in terms of level of play.......he had better results in mid 00s because the field was clearly way weaker than today.......

[Brick Top]

avan, he saw djokovic's name on the towel and yet he din't move from there.......that is very careless, rude, sore, bitter and awkward i am afraid to say.......

props, age is insignificant when he keeps moving like that and keeps producing tennis like that......fed is still in his peak, it's just that these days he has to deal with 3 to 4 players who can beat him on a given day.......personally i think 2010 and 2011 were his best years in terms of level of play.......he had better results in mid 00s because the field was clearly way weaker than today.......

True and true, thats what I constantly saying.

[FedFanForever]

avan, he saw djokovic's name on the towel and yet he din't move from there.......that is very careless, rude, sore, bitter and awkward i am afraid to say.......

props, age is insignificant when he keeps moving like that and keeps producing tennis like that......fed is still in his peak, it's just that these days he has to deal with 3 to 4 players who can beat him on a given day.......personally i think 2010 and 2011 were his best years in terms of level of play.......he had better results in mid 00s because the field was clearly way weaker than today.......

  LOL ROFL!!!!

[pawan89]

Congrats to Novak, he was just clutch in fighting it out. I love Fed/Novak matchup! Solid number 1 and number 2 ranking for both players and well deserved!

[Alex]

Bencherer  . just too funny (someone came up with this new nick on MTF). I'll try to post some pics tho. too funny or not, you decide 

[FedFanForever]

Bencherer  . just too funny (someone came up with this new nick on MTF). I'll try to post some pics tho. too funny or not, you decide 

Thank god Fed has his 6 titles, or else I'd not find it all very funny!

[Start da Game]

Bencherer  . just too funny (someone came up with this new nick on MTF). I'll try to post some pics tho. too funny or not, you decide 

dallas would modify that name benchmarkerer.......   

[jesse james]

avan, he saw djokovic's name on the towel and yet he din't move from there.......that is very careless, rude, sore, bitter and awkward i am afraid to say.......

props, age is insignificant when he keeps moving like that and keeps producing tennis like that......fed is still in his peak, it's just that these days he has to deal with 3 to 4 players who can beat him on a given day.......personally i think 2010 and 2011 were his best years in terms of level of play.......he had better results in mid 00s because the field was clearly way weaker than today.......

'fed is still at his peak' you f**king moron troll, there are stats that show the optimum age for a tennis player is between 22 and 25, arbitrarily defining peak whenever it suits your stupid bias measures you, idiot.

[Emma]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

[jesse james]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

[Alex]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Jess, you need to understand few things about Emma. She, like most girls (sorry 'other' girls ), will pretend she knows what she is talking about but she has no clue.. I still love her tho 

[jesse james]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Jess, you need to understand few things about Emma. She, like most girls (sorry 'other' girls ), will pretend she knows what she is talking about but she has no clue.. I still love her tho 

Patronising, but i like it.

[Emma]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Agassi peaked from 1999 to 2003 as 5 of his 8 majors came in that time frame. And he was 29 in 1999.

Andy is peaking right now. He's showing signs of peaking and next year will tell a lot.

[jesse james]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Agassi peaked from 1999 to 2003 as 5 of his 8 majors came in that time frame. And he was 29 in 1999.

Andy is peaking right now. He's showing signs of peaking and next year will tell a lot.

how can you know if andy is peaking right now, he might win two slams next year!
Agassi won 5 majors before 30, if his peak was 30 the logic is that he would win 5 after, he didn't With bland predicitability everyone gives Agassi as an example of someone who wins slams over 30, which is true, but it doesn't prove that it's a statistical norm, he's the exception, most players win between 22 and 25, which is the norm this year, Fed is the exception to that norm, it doesn't mean the norm is abandoned.

[Emma]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Agassi peaked from 1999 to 2003 as 5 of his 8 majors came in that time frame. And he was 29 in 1999.

Andy is peaking right now. He's showing signs of peaking and next year will tell a lot.

how can you know if andy is peaking right now, he might win two slams next year!
Agassi won 5 majors before 30, if his peak was 30 the logic is that he would win 5 after, he didn't With bland predicitability everyone gives Agassi as an example of someone who wins slams over 30, which is true, but it doesn't prove that it's a statistical norm, he's the exception, most players win between 22 and 25, which is the norm this year, Fed is the exception to that norm, it doesn't mean the norm is abandoned.

You left out Patrick Rafter who peaked in 1997 at age 25, so Agassi is not the only one. Ferrer, for example, is playing the best tennis of his life right now and he's hit 30 this year and has won 7 titles.

I am not saying you were wrong in what you said but that it's not always the case.

So how much alcohol have we consumed tonight so far?

[jesse james]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Agassi peaked from 1999 to 2003 as 5 of his 8 majors came in that time frame. And he was 29 in 1999.

Andy is peaking right now. He's showing signs of peaking and next year will tell a lot.

how can you know if andy is peaking right now, he might win two slams next year!
Agassi won 5 majors before 30, if his peak was 30 the logic is that he would win 5 after, he didn't With bland predicitability everyone gives Agassi as an example of someone who wins slams over 30, which is true, but it doesn't prove that it's a statistical norm, he's the exception, most players win between 22 and 25, which is the norm this year, Fed is the exception to that norm, it doesn't mean the norm is abandoned.

You left out Patrick Rafter who peaked in 1997 at age 25, so Agassi is not the only one. Ferrer, for example, is playing the best tennis of his life right now and he's hit 30 this year and has won 7 titles.

I am not saying you were wrong in what you said but that it's not always the case.

So how much alcohol have we consumed tonight?

i've consumed a lot of alcohol tonight-but i'm still a f**king smartarse.

[Emma]

Yes, you are. You are talking out of it after all.

[Start da Game]

avan, he saw djokovic's name on the towel and yet he din't move from there.......that is very careless, rude, sore, bitter and awkward i am afraid to say.......

props, age is insignificant when he keeps moving like that and keeps producing tennis like that......fed is still in his peak, it's just that these days he has to deal with 3 to 4 players who can beat him on a given day.......personally i think 2010 and 2011 were his best years in terms of level of play.......he had better results in mid 00s because the field was clearly way weaker than today.......

'fed is still at his peak' you f**king moron troll, there are stats that show the optimum age for a tennis player is between 22 and 25, arbitrarily defining peak whenever it suits your stupid bias measures you, idiot.

there are also stats that show that ideal age for peak is 25 - 30, stats which show that ideal age for peak is 18 - 22, and stats which show that ideal age for peak is 28 - 32.......

becker won 4 of his 6 slams before he hit 22........agassi won 5 of his 8 slams after he hit 28.......lendl won 7 of his 8 slams after age 25.......

you are just an angry little butthurt goon and nothing else........strictly speaking you don't even deserve my attention........

[Start da Game]

Not quiet. There are examples where a player peaked either much earlier or later. Andy is peaking right now and he's already 25, so the next 3 to 5 years should be his peak time. Agassi also peaked much later. Same goes for Patrick Rafter. All late bloomers.

Agassi peaked much later, care to show me the figures on that one? even if he did, it doesn't mean most players peak between those years.  How could you know whether andy is peaking unless his career is over, a peak can only be established post facto.

Agassi peaked from 1999 to 2003 as 5 of his 8 majors came in that time frame. And he was 29 in 1999.

Andy is peaking right now. He's showing signs of peaking and next year will tell a lot.

how can you know if andy is peaking right now, he might win two slams next year!
Agassi won 5 majors before 30, if his peak was 30 the logic is that he would win 5 after, he didn't With bland predicitability everyone gives Agassi as an example of someone who wins slams over 30, which is true, but it doesn't prove that it's a statistical norm, he's the exception, most players win between 22 and 25, which is the norm this year, Fed is the exception to that norm, it doesn't mean the norm is abandoned.

You left out Patrick Rafter who peaked in 1997 at age 25, so Agassi is not the only one. Ferrer, for example, is playing the best tennis of his life right now and he's hit 30 this year and has won 7 titles.

I am not saying you were wrong in what you said but that it's not always the case.

So how much alcohol have we consumed tonight so far?

he leaves out everyone who doesn't fit his agenda and yet speaks about "norm"........stupid lame little clown trying too hard to come off as objective and hide his glazing fedtardism........

[phoneix]

avan, he saw djokovic's name on the towel and yet he din't move from there.......that is very careless, rude, sore, bitter and awkward i am afraid to say.......

props, age is insignificant when he keeps moving like that and keeps producing tennis like that......fed is still in his peak, it's just that these days he has to deal with 3 to 4 players who can beat him on a given day.......personally i think 2010 and 2011 were his best years in terms of level of play.......he had better results in mid 00s because the field was clearly way weaker than today.......

Even if Federer was playing in a 'weak era', it doesn't mean it wasn't playing his best tennis. He was never tested, either way. In 2008 he started losing to his 'weak era' opponents.