Topic: Ye Olde Castle-Vol.9-The battlefield where Generals,Vamps & Gamers rule supreme

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Stan !!!

Wawrinka backhand winner

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tommy

Haas six backhands in a row

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I have to say that it's tough to choose amongst one-handed backhands for sheer beauty between Federer, Gasquet, Haas & Wawrinka.

I don't really think the Haas backhand is a beauty, although it's a pretty good shot.

Kohlschreiber's backhand is much more elegant in my opinion while Wawa's seems a little mechanic but has the most power out of all these backhands.

Gasquet has the most elegant.

elegance means nothing.


can that backhand produce in the clutch?

is it consistent enough?

would you bet your life on it?

can he win with it?

is that backhand money?


defense rests.


nothing and nobody touches roger`s single hander on this planet. nobody has ever hit it that well and produced such variety consistently over the last 15 years.

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how about the greatest of the greatest double handers?
 
here is my list:
 
1. nole
2. safin
3. nalbandian
3. borg
4. connors
5. murray
6. nadal---when he was at his peak like in 2008 or maybe even in 2010

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I have to say that it's tough to choose amongst one-handed backhands for sheer beauty between Federer, Gasquet, Haas & Wawrinka.

I don't really think the Haas backhand is a beauty, although it's a pretty good shot.

Kohlschreiber's backhand is much more elegant in my opinion while Wawa's seems a little mechanic but has the most power out of all these backhands.

Gasquet has the most elegant.

elegance means nothing.


can that backhand produce in the clutch?

is it consistent enough?

would you bet your life on it?

can he win with it?

is that backhand money?


defense rests.


nothing and nobody touches roger`s single hander on this planet. nobody has ever hit it that well and produced such variety consistently over the last 15 years.

i never said that the others were better, just giving my opinion on it. and on my opinion Gasquet's is the flashiest.

is it consistent enough and would I bet my life on it (Fed's) Hell no!

Guga's backhand was definately more money than Roger's. Not saying Roger's is bad, but it's definately not his shot that got him 17 slams generalito.

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how about the greatest of the greatest double handers?
 
here is my list:
 
1. nole
2. safin
3. nalbandian
3. borg
4. connors
5. murray
6. nadal---when he was at his peak like in 2008 or maybe even in 2010

gonna come up with a list for that too
no, will do it on the spot, top 5

1.Borg
2.Nalbandian
3.Mecir
4.Connors
5.Rios

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great list duncan. i was thinking i should drop connors and add mecir.

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I have to say that it's tough to choose amongst one-handed backhands for sheer beauty between Federer, Gasquet, Haas & Wawrinka.

I don't really think the Haas backhand is a beauty, although it's a pretty good shot.

Kohlschreiber's backhand is much more elegant in my opinion while Wawa's seems a little mechanic but has the most power out of all these backhands.

Gasquet has the most elegant.

elegance means nothing.


can that backhand produce in the clutch?

is it consistent enough?

would you bet your life on it?

can he win with it?

is that backhand money?


defense rests.


nothing and nobody touches roger`s single hander on this planet. nobody has ever hit it that well and produced such variety consistently over the last 15 years.

i never said that the others were better, just giving my opinion on it. and on my opinion Gasquet's is the flashiest.

is it consistent enough and would I bet my life on it (Fed's) Hell no!

Guga's backhand was definately more money than Roger's. Not saying Roger's is bad, but it's definately not his shot that got him 17 slams generalito.

well we have to look at it from a different angle generalito:

1. gasquet can't do anything else so his backhand is the most obvious stroke that catches people`s eyes.

2. i see flaws in the mechanics of the gasquet backhand and that is exactly why it is so inconsistent.

3. if you just compare gasquet`s backhand to roger`s backhand, its no contest. roger blows his backhand away.

4. rogers`s mechanics are near perfect on his backhand. furthermore, his variety off that wing is exceptional.

5. roger`s backhand has been overlooked because his forehand --along with nadal`s forehand-- have been the most devastating strokes in history.

6. roger holds serve at his peak nearly 90% of the time and finishes his service games in less than a minute. it his 2nd most devastating stroke. he kills you with his serve or his forehand. you take your pick in terms of how you want to die.

7. roger`s net game is 2nd to none at his peak for a singles player. his volleys are pure magic.

8. roger floats around the damn court at his peak.


translation: people forget about what his backhand can do and does in light of all those things i mentioned.

nobody is stupid enough over the years to keep hitting to his forehand. they mostly went after his backhand. and guess what happened?

it did not fail. nadal was the only one who could break it down.

and truth be known, nadal did not really break it down. roger`s arm would get tired eventually and he would start missing.

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ramos is hanging in there so far.
 
vamossssssssssss.

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all valid points you make there generalito. spot on as usual.

but the thing is and will remain, the backhand is roger's weakest part of his game. well I won't say weakest but less devestating.
he has great variety, and with that backhand block return he was always able to neutralize the biggest servers on the planet. nobody could get in points better than roger could in his prime.

as everyone knew roger's backhand was his weakness, people kept on hitting it to that side which developed into an improved backhand over the years. that's why you saw roger play ultra solid on his backhand last year Indian Wells/this year australian open.

but right now, roger lacks the power he had in his prime. I believe his core strength decreased a lot over the last years and that it's his masterfull tactics and superb technique on the forehand and backhand that still generates a lot of pace/angle in which he can dominate the points.

conclusion; Roger's powers are starting to fade away, but from time to time when everything falls into place (serve clicks, footwork is impeccable, backhand solid and forehand not shaky) he is still going to be a force to be reckoned with.

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final conclusion : he is the GOAT 

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excellent post generalito. right on the money mate.

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duncan you are on with mettalica tomorrow. i will be working on my top 10 list. i saw your post earlier.

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with nadal quickly fading away into the sunset i think roger`s chances are sky high for making the final at wimbledon this year with the right draw.
 
and anything can happen in the final. he is the defending champ there and you know grass makes his game come alive.
 
nole now is the favorite for RG. only way that changes is if nadal manages to have 25 clay court match wins under his belt before he steps onto the centre court at RG for the final.
 
and then in that final, nobody will stand a chance against nadal.

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ciao all

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laterz duncan.
 
ramos was not able to pull it off. this puts marcel under added pressure but i think he will win.
 
i am going to hit the weights. see you all later.
 
post away and have fun.

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dancevic playing granollers now, let's see if he still have what it takes.

when I see his name, I always remember this match.
the crowd was going nuts that day

Frank Dancevic hitting several winners

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dancevic playing granollers now, let's see if he still have what it takes.

when I see his name, I always remember this match.
the crowd was going nuts that day

Frank Dancevic hitting several winners

is this the match where they played somenthing like a 30 point tiebreaker or a breaker that would not end?

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marcel is living dangerously.
 
he lost the first set and is down 3-1 in the 2nd. it will be hard to come back from a 2 set deficit.

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