Topic: Castle Camelot vo.11-where sports,ghosts,vampires&Ye olde castle spirits linger

[Clay Death]

i saw that video a few days ago general. thanks for sharing it with the folks at the castle.
 
 
congrats to general duncan for the domination of FITD tournament.
 
 
i am going to hit the road for a bike ride. there was light rain falling but it has stopped for now.
 
 
general MC this one is for you:
 
 

[Clay Death]

how many clay titles between those 4 monsters?
 
we would need an IBM super computer to track it all.
 
now throw in Muster. how many clay titles between those 4?

[masterclass]

Hey, I thought you all might like this video I found of the Roland Garros final of 1978 between Bjorn Borg and Guillermo Vilas.  Recall that Borg couldn't play RG in 1977 because of the stupid WTT (World Team Tennis) contract restriction and the French organizers, and Vilas took the title that year.  Now we come to the following year and they faced off against each other...recall that they played with wooden racquets in those days. Vilas with his Head Vilas and Borg with his Donnay only around 65 sq in head. (Federer uses a 90 sq. in., Djokovic 98 sq in. and Nadal 100 sq in. modern graphite composites)

One point in the match lasted 86 strokes.  You had to have real patience on clay in those days.  video quality is not too bad...



Respectfully,
masterclass

I have this one on dvd, Borg clearly the better player in this match ..

Yes, well he dominated the tournament that year like no other.  He didn't lose a set, and lost only something like 32 games the whole tournament in 7 matches.  I think Roscoe Tanner with his big serve took 12 by himself. So that means that in 6 other matches Borg averaged a little over 3 games lost per match.

Respectfully,
masterclass

[Freak3yman84]

I win Memphis in FITD 

Congrats! 

[viruzzz]

Wow... That video is PURE GOLD.

[Clay Death]

the magnificent 5. the world will never know another 5 like these gladiators. not in 100 billion years:
 
 
 

[Clay Death]

general masterclass that is just a staggering number of clay titles for those 5.
 
46-47 for vilas alone. nadal is sitting on at least 37. borg, roger,  and muster racked up a lot of clay titles as well.
 
i have no idea how many clay titles lendl and bruguera had.

[Clash]

mucho clay titles combined, that's for sure.

lopez and istomin gonna play now

[viruzzz]

As a FedFan I think Kuerten deserves to be here more than Roger.

I mean, something's true, Federer only won 10 Clay Titles because of playing in an era with the best claycourter ever, but still... Kuerten defeated Roger in RG and won 3 shiny French Open cups.

Still. I'm a great lover of Fed's clay-game and I still have hopes of a Rome title 

[Clash]

what about Wilander ? 3 times RG champ, like Lendl

[Freak3yman84]

what about Wilander ? 3 times RG champ, like Lendl

20 clay titles for him 

[masterclass]

general masterclass that is just a staggering number of clay titles for those 5.
 
46-47 for vilas alone. nadal is sitting on at least 37. borg, roger,  and muster racked up a lot of clay titles as well.
 
i have no idea how many clay titles lendl and bruguera had.

That's a great picture general. 

Here are the top 20 in ATP Clay titles won in the Open Era along with their overall clay match record and pct. along with Federer at #24 in titles won, but is #9 in Match winning pct on clay.  He's no slouch on clay...

Code: [Select]

        Name                     PCT  Titles      W-L
1. Guillermo Vilas .796    45 632-162
2. Thomas Muster .769 40 422-127
3. Rafael Nadal         .929    37 261-20
4. Bjorn Borg         .863 30 245-39
5. Manuel Orantes    .769 29 489-147
6. Ivan Lendl         .814 28 329-75
7. Ilie Nastase         .776 27 315-91
8. Jose-Luis Clerc .774 21 301-88
9. Mats Wilander .767 20 264-80
10. Carlos Moya .702 16 337-143
11. Andres Gomez .700 16 322-138
12. Jose Higueras .696 15 376-164
13. Eddie Dibbs .743 14 365-126
14. Gustavo Kuerten .699 14 181-78
15. Alberto Berasategui .647 14 238-130
16. Juan Carlos Ferrero .728 13 254-95
17. Sergi Bruguera         .687 13 296-135
18. Balazs Taroczy .686 13 288-132
19. Emilio Sanchez .638 13 298-169
20. Jimmy Connors .776 12      197-57

24. Roger Federer .771 10 178-53


[Clay Death]

general masterclass that is just a staggering number of clay titles for those 5.
 
46-47 for vilas alone. nadal is sitting on at least 37. borg, roger,  and muster racked up a lot of clay titles as well.
 
i have no idea how many clay titles lendl and bruguera had.

That's a great picture general. 

Here are the top 20 in ATP Clay titles won in the Open Era along with their overall clay match record and pct. along with Federer at #24 in titles won, but is #9 in Match winning pct on clay.  He's no slouch on clay...

Code: [Select]

        Name                     PCT  Titles      W-L
1. Guillermo Vilas .796    45 632-162
2. Thomas Muster .769 40 422-127
3. Rafael Nadal         .929    37 261-20
4. Bjorn Borg         .863 30 245-39
5. Manuel Orantes    .769 29 489-147
6. Ivan Lendl         .814 28 329-75
7. Ilie Nastase         .776 27 315-91
8. Jose-Luis Clerc .774 21 301-88
9. Mats Wilander .767 20 264-80
10. Carlos Moya .702 16 337-143
11. Andres Gomez .700 16 322-138
12. Jose Higueras .696 15 376-164
13. Eddie Dibbs .743 14 365-126
14. Gustavo Kuerten .699 14 181-78
15. Alberto Berasategui .647 14 238-130
16. Juan Carlos Ferrero .728 13 254-95
17. Sergi Bruguera         .687 13 296-135
18. Balazs Taroczy .686 13 288-132
19. Emilio Sanchez .638 13 298-169
20. Jimmy Connors .776 12      197-57

24. Roger Federer .771 10 178-53


incredible stuff general MC. keep it coming.


i forgot about orantes and nasty. they were clay monsters as well.


 

[Clay Death]

jose luis clerc has more titles on clay than i realized. i have not done much reading on him.
 
 
general viruzzz stay tuned i am gong to do an image with borg, vilas, nadal, muster, and kuerten.
 
coming right up.

[Clay Death]

 
 
 
 

[Clay Death]

i cant believe orantes won nearly 500 matches on clay alone. that dude must have been amazing.

[masterclass]

general masterclass that is just a staggering number of clay titles for those 5.
 
46-47 for vilas alone. nadal is sitting on at least 37. borg, roger,  and muster racked up a lot of clay titles as well.
 
i have no idea how many clay titles lendl and bruguera had.

That's a great picture general. 

Here are the top 20 in ATP Clay titles won in the Open Era along with their overall clay match record and pct. along with Federer at #24 in titles won, but is #9 in Match winning pct on clay.  He's no slouch on clay...

Code: [Select]

        Name                     PCT  Titles      W-L
1. Guillermo Vilas .796    45 632-162
2. Thomas Muster .769 40 422-127
3. Rafael Nadal         .929    37 261-20
4. Bjorn Borg         .863 30 245-39
5. Manuel Orantes    .769 29 489-147
6. Ivan Lendl         .814 28 329-75
7. Ilie Nastase         .776 27 315-91
8. Jose-Luis Clerc .774 21 301-88
9. Mats Wilander .767 20 264-80
10. Carlos Moya .702 16 337-143
11. Andres Gomez .700 16 322-138
12. Jose Higueras .696 15 376-164
13. Eddie Dibbs .743 14 365-126
14. Gustavo Kuerten .699 14 181-78
15. Alberto Berasategui .647 14 238-130
16. Juan Carlos Ferrero .728 13 254-95
17. Sergi Bruguera         .687 13 296-135
18. Balazs Taroczy .686 13 288-132
19. Emilio Sanchez .638 13 298-169
20. Jimmy Connors .776 12      197-57

24. Roger Federer .771 10 178-53


incredible stuff general MC. keep it coming.


i forgot about orantes and nasty. they were clay monsters as well.


 

There is one person who is not on the top clay titles list because he won just 7 titles in the Open Era, but comes in at #5 in match win pct.
Can you guess who he is?

Respectfully,
masterclass

[Clay Death]

tough question general MC.

[masterclass]

i cant believe orantes won nearly 500 matches on clay alone. that dude must have been amazing.

Yes, and I don't think anyone will catch him and of course Vilas, who won an eye-boggling 632 matches on clay.

Respectfully,
masterclass

[nick the greek]

Hiya Dylan, John, Duncan, Sam.