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Offline Orange Wombat

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Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« on: July 07, 2013, 06:00:32 PM »
He's different lately.

In French Open vs Nadal,

Here against Delpo in the 4th set,

And Murray here he had 4-2 in the second set.

In all the big points he seems to be using clown strategies that he wouldn't have done before. What's wrong?  :confused1:

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2013, 06:16:55 PM »
the prophesy was revealed at the castle. you people would not listen. now pay the price.
 
 
 
 
the great highlander was not going to be denied today no matter how well nole played.
 
 
basically andy stood up to him and said he was not backing down. he is a Scotsman and a warrior. today he was going to fight him to the death.
 
 
 
andy returned well as he absolutely had to. that placed nole`s own serve under more pressure than usual.
 
 
 
 
ignore the castle at your own peril. the prophesy was revealed at the castle weeks ago. the great highlander is rising.
 
we at the castle knew it. mtf rats who are already blinded with reckless hate showed their great ignorance again.

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2013, 06:25:17 PM »
Djokovic is overrated, but who can forget his performance in the 2012 final?
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2013, 07:29:54 PM »
Djokovic was worn out some from the duel with DelPo, but that wasn't the only reason.
 
He hasn't been playing at his highest level much of the year, it's hard to stay focused and play top notch tennis for long periods.
 
Only Federer was able to do that and for years at a time.
 
Don't worry about Djokovic, he is on his way to make over 100 weeks at #1 and further establish his name in tennis history.
 

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2013, 08:19:46 PM »
total nonsense.
 
even nole himself said very clearly and very specifically that he was playing even better than when he won the Wimbledon in 2011.
 
 
 
and he said before the final that he was feeling fresh and ready.
 
this match was won and it was won because andy came to win it. he would not back down.
 
he broke serve no less than 7 times and he was focused. he ditched his slice and moved in a little bit closer to the baseline.
 
andy took just a tiny bit of time away from nole and that made a difference.
 
 
 
 
what also hurt nole was the easy draw. he had it too damn easy until the del potro match. and del potro should have beaten him just for that reason.
 
it just did not work out for del potro.
 
 
I also believe that nole was overconfident.

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2013, 08:27:14 PM »
F*uck you all bi!tches, Djokovic still rules  :har-har: .

OK, I had to say that, now I feel better  :)).

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2013, 08:32:51 PM »
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2013, 08:33:25 PM »
F*uck you all bi!tches, Djokovic still rules  :har-har: .

OK, I had to say that, now I feel better  :)) .

He's going for year #1 Alex. History awaits him.  :cool:

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2013, 10:36:20 PM »
It's definitely been missing. 

Has he lost it? TBD
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 04:30:39 AM »
RG is rafa's fort..
Wimby is rog/murray's fort..
Nole's fort is aus open !!

Djokovic needs a break badly.
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 10:34:39 AM »
He has for now.
I didn't see the steely look in his eyes even when he had a break chance in the third set.
 
 

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 11:09:02 AM »
last time I checked, he was still #1. and he still has his 6 slams with endorsement portfolio that continues to grow.
 
 
he was never going to beat a healthy nadal at RG so we knew that going in. nadal was shaky but he summons that forehand and his will when he absolutely has to at RG.
 
 
as for grass, we just have to congratulate andy. he was not going to be denied.
 
 
he came to fight and he was not backing down. that affected nole.
 
 
the man is human.
 
andy was focused on playing a cleaner match while nole was not patient enough for his opportunities. he even said so.
 
 
now the big burning question is this:
 
 
has nole handed andy the mental edge? and the answer to that is yes. it is not this loss that is devastating for nole.
 
it is the next one if it happens at flushing meadows. andy is the best player on the planet if he again runs down nole at the u.s. open.
 
 
so the next slam gives us all the information we seek. it is probably the most important slam of nole`s career. here he can hand over the king of the planet crown to andy or keep it.
 
and I might add that andy will be highly motivated now to prove that he really does belong at the top of the game. so this is absolutely critical for him too.
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 12:02:34 PM »
I think 2011 was a spectacular year and one for the ages but we cannot use that to judge the rest of Novak's career. So discounting that stellar year, Novak's mental edge is just one that comes from being really damn good, having won a few slams, knowing he can beat anyone on any given day, and being a solid consistent year-round strong world number 1. And no, he hasn't lost that.

He clearly has his preferred surfaces, and he has his good days and not so good days, like anyone else. The only players who are true tests/threats to him anywhere are Nadal and Murray, and maybe Roger. For instance, as good as DelPotro played in the semis, DelPotro was always playing to stay in the match and push Novak while Djokovic was always the favorite to win, mentally and it was just a matter of time. That's the mental edge we're talking about. Come hardcourt season, given the season so far, Andy is the only one who might be able to say he stands an equal chance to beat Djokovic, against everyone else, he'll have the mental edge cuz he's the man to beat.

And yeah, let's not forget, as Herc pointed out, he's still #1 by a LARGE margin, has 6 slams and much more to his name, is still the most consistently strong player this year across all surfaces and will almost certainly end the year #1. No he has not lost the mental edge. Just a not so great day at the office on a surface that is not preferred against an opponent and a crowd that was on a mission to make history.


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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 01:03:41 PM »

I think in tennis, things do balance out over a period of time. Djokovic had many spectacular matches last couple of years, where he won the matches out of no where when he was just a few points away from defeat.  And he lost a few matches this year where it didnt work out for him. I still think that he will have couple of solid years with slam wins.

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 01:28:01 PM »
nole got very lucky at the u.s. open thanks to roger. roger basically gave him 2 matches.
 
 
 
and then how about nadal at the Australian open? was that a gift of a lifetime or what.
 
nadal had no business losing that one. either he ran out of stream or he choked. my guess is both.
 
 
 
so basically nole sits on 3 slams too many thanks to the generosity of roger and nadal.

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2013, 06:03:08 PM »
nole got very lucky at the u.s. open thanks to roger. roger basically gave him 2 matches.
 
 
 
and then how about nadal at the Australian open? was that a gift of a lifetime or what.
 
nadal had no business losing that one. either he ran out of stream or he choked. my guess is both.
 
 
 
so basically nole sits on 3 slams too many thanks to the generosity of roger and nadal.


Nadal won his 2006/2007 FO titles on a bit of Roger generosity.

2006 - Fed won the first set 6-1 and then collapsed.
2007 - Fed went 1/17 on break points. Basically handed the match.

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2013, 06:40:44 PM »
he hasn't lost mental edge, he lost guts.
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2013, 07:04:13 PM »
Of course not,he's still no1 & has 3,000 ranking points more than anyone else. :rofl_2:

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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2013, 08:21:30 PM »
Of course not,he's still no1 & has 3,000 ranking points more than anyone else. :rofl_2:

It helps when #2 skips a slam  ;-()
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Re: Has Djokovic lost his mental edge?
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2013, 10:45:18 PM »
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