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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #60 on: July 09, 2013, 07:44:14 PM »
I had no idea you're such a big fan of Henman. I thought it was always Becker. My ex was a big fan of Stefan. I was a big fan of Sampras. 90s were great in terms of tennis. I don't mind the current era. I very much like almost all the players - just wasn't a very big fan of Roger's domination. From 2008, it's been certainly on a very different level. I don't want to complain. I like to enjoy tennis no matter what packages they come in. Change is inevitable and it's always good. I almost always accept it. Why be bitter about things you can't change? As Gandhi would say, you must be the change you wish to see in the world.
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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #61 on: July 09, 2013, 07:57:46 PM »
I don't mind the current era either, yet. We'll see what the future will bring when tennis will be without Tommy.
Also I'm always for thrive, but sometimes I just don't see it. I always tend to please myself with small things.

Unfortunately even Gandhi might be right, but not all the changes are good.
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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2013, 11:48:43 AM »
Changes are always good and that's why they happen in the first place. For example, if you get flooded then that would mean something needs to change so that you don't face this situation again. And there are some changes that are inevitable (in fact, all changes are inevitable since the very nature of our Universe is to evolve continuously). Technology for instance, is never going to stop evolving. It will eventually take tennis to a higher level (or anything for that matter) and you can still get stuck in the 80s if you feel like it and if you have the luxury for it, but it will not stop just for you. Adapting to any new changes/conditions is a great skill in fact. You can certainly complain about it and nonstop too, but those who adapt it faster are the ones who are comfortable with the changes and of course, they are also far superior to others who couldn't.  Tennis, the game itself, will evolve and grow whether that suits your taste or not.
 
It's about the context in which I refer to change.
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Re: Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2013, 12:41:38 PM »
Viewership for the Wimbledon final was down 40%.

I did not know that. And that, despite ESPN selling it as potentially the GOAT with endless 30 ball rallies!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2013, 12:50:28 PM »
Viewership for the Wimbledon final was down 40%.



17 million brits watched the last final.


17.3 million brits watched this final.


Herc, man, you're not going to win them all. This only makes you sound like a bigger dum-bass than when you boasted that Brits paid $63K (cough cough).

If no one is watching, if they can't fill the Big House in Queens, you lose.


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Re: Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2013, 12:55:52 PM »
I saw that the global ratings were down for this final but remember the "global" masses do not really know Murray or Novak. It's like golf on a Sunday without Tiger! Ratings go down. Love him or hate him - people watch him. Same with tennis. Love or hate Roger - people watch him. The final Sunday didn't have a "global marque" name to help the ratings out. America especially needs Federer, or Nadal, or an American to really pull the ratings in. I haven't checked the women's rating but  I am sure that final was wayyyy down with the names we had in that final.


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Good info. I think you're right on all points.

The concern is, for f**k's sake, people don't know Dimitrov or Janowicz. I don't want to hear about how people don't know Murray and Djokovic. People have simply rejected them.


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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2013, 07:04:58 PM »
Viewership for the Wimbledon final was down 40%.



17 million brits watched the last final.


17.3 million brits watched this final.


Herc, man, you're not going to win them all. This only makes you sound like a bigger dum-bass than when you boasted that Brits paid $63K (cough cough).

If no one is watching, if they can't fill the Big House in Queens, you lose.


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There's more than just Britain, that's just a small portion of the world.
 
But with Andy getting headlines future exposure may benefit.
 
 

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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2013, 07:56:32 PM »
Viewership for the Wimbledon final was down 40%.



17 million brits watched the last final.


17.3 million brits watched this final.


Herc, man, you're not going to win them all. This only makes you sound like a bigger dum-bass than when you boasted that Brits paid $63K (cough cough).

If no one is watching, if they can't fill the Big House in Queens, you lose.


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now why would I claim that "brits paid $63,000 for a Wimbledon final ticket?
 
 
I said that some site on the net had a price of a ticket at 106,000 for 2.
 
and another site declared that a ticket was going for as much as $63,000.00.
 
 
I have no idea if a ticket was even available.

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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2013, 08:03:48 PM »
once again tennis is like #10 sport in America these days.
 
also most americans who watch tennis wanted to see roger in the final. roger and nadal remain the most popular players on the planet. they are the ones americans wanted to watch.
 
 
you also have to consider the skyrockting rise and use of the digital content. millions and millions followed the final on computers, cell phones and the like.
 
call it digial viewership if you will.
 
 
40% drop in television viewership is not really significant considering how hard it will be to replace roger and nadal.
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Re: Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2013, 08:27:44 PM »


 
40% drop is television viewership is not really significant considering how hard it will be to replace roger and nadal.

Interesting wording but fo' sho'!
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« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2013, 08:37:46 PM »
johnny mac says that roger could be a factor at the next Wimbledon.
 
but then he also says that roger is probably not winning anymore slams.
 
so who knows what the hell he is saying.
 
 

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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2013, 09:40:01 PM »
Herc, our opinions are at least as good as theirs. I don't put much into what analysts say. We can figure this sport out on our own.


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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2013, 09:44:25 PM »
Herc, our opinions are at least as good as theirs. I don't put much into what analysts say. We can figure this sport out on our own.


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Ain't that the truth or what?

Not only tennis, your sentence goes to all those top movie critics, music critics bla bla bla
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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2013, 09:50:24 PM »
Herc, our opinions are at least as good as theirs. I don't put much into what analysts say. We can figure this sport out on our own.


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couldn't agree more here. When I think about it, we on average watch more tennis than analysts. OK, we are freaks  :).


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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2013, 05:19:35 AM »
Herc, our opinions are at least as good as theirs. I don't put much into what analysts say. We can figure this sport out on our own.


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Ain't that the truth or what?

Not only tennis, your sentence goes to all those top movie critics, music critics bla bla bla
....and let's not forget financial advisors. :\
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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #75 on: July 11, 2013, 09:04:19 AM »
Herc, our opinions are at least as good as theirs. I don't put much into what analysts say. We can figure this sport out on our own.


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Ain't that the truth or what?

Not only tennis, your sentence goes to all those top movie critics, music critics bla bla bla
....and let's not forget financial advisors. :\

Really?


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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2013, 10:24:45 AM »
Viewership for the Wimbledon final was down 40%.



17 million brits watched the last final.


17.3 million brits watched this final.


Herc, man, you're not going to win them all. This only makes you sound like a bigger dum-bass than when you boasted that Brits paid $63K (cough cough).

If no one is watching, if they can't fill the Big House in Queens, you lose.


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now why would I claim that "brits paid $63,000 for a Wimbledon final ticket?
 
 
I said that some site on the net had a price of a ticket at 106,000 for 2.
 
and another site declared that a ticket was going for as much as $63,000.00.
 
 
I have no idea if a ticket was even available.

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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2013, 01:58:07 PM »
Neither of them killed Tennis. Against any other guy they have amazing matches, in fact even the two of them have had half a dozen good matches.

It's not their fault that their gamestyles are very similar.

Don't like it? Don't watch.

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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #78 on: July 11, 2013, 02:10:58 PM »
Neither of them killed Tennis. Against any other guy they have amazing matches, in fact even the two of them have had half a dozen good matches.

It's not their fault that their gamestyles are very similar.

Don't like it? Don't watch.

If you stick around you will see that it's very hard for some people to do that.

I enjoy tennis very much and I like this match up - Nole/Murray. Not all of their matches are great but so aren't many of Federer/Nadal matches (or even Nadal/Nole), but some are just blind to that.
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Re: Murray and Djokovic Killed Tennis
« Reply #79 on: July 11, 2013, 02:16:50 PM »
Neither of them killed Tennis. Against any other guy they have amazing matches, in fact even the two of them have had half a dozen good matches.

It's not their fault that their gamestyles are very similar.

Don't like it? Don't watch.

If you stick around you will see that it's very hard for some people to do that.

I enjoy tennis very much and I like this match up - Nole/Murray. Not all of their matches are great but so aren't many of Federer/Nadal matches (or even Nadal/Nole), but some are just blind to that.

If it's so difficult for them to do, why don't they start to appreciate different styles instead of being nostalgia tards who believe Tennis should only be played in one way...