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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #120 on: August 15, 2013, 04:28:12 AM »
Just back from it. Seen live it was probably better but I would never have called it exciting. Rafa showed what he could do on a hard court and Becker put up a creditable but never threatening defence. It was a nice thing to watch on an unususally pleasant night. I enjoyed it more than the Djokovic set earlier on. I just don't think Nole was trying very hard and that could have got him into trouble.

Euroka, first of all thanks for great reports and for answering my question. Watching match on TV and actually being there are 2 different things. We all know that. We have only one tournament in Calgary (futures event). tickets are free. I didn't even bother watching Djokovic, because I had to find a decent  live stream (there is no such a thing) plus didn't really expect any surprises. Novak tends to be slow and disinterested when playing first round matches against lower ranked players although Monaco is not exactly a journeyman.

so my point is, I'd rather watch 2 guys  playing locally who are on a similar level, than Djokovic or Rafa on TV spanking some lower ranked players by just showing up (someone might bring an argument that Rafa lost to 2 'nobodies' at W 2 years in a row but that's another story). Nole hasn't lost a match before QF for like last 100 years. the odd matches he did lose this year in QF weren't that important to him. Big 4 guys are constantly calculating IMO.

Hi Alex,

Agreed.  :)

I'd put it even more strongly. I'd rather BE one of two guys playing locally, who are on a similar level ....

...and it's true, the best matches at this stage are between the lower ranked players. The Del Potro - Davydenko match yesterday was pretty good.

The big excitement at the top usually comes at the quarters or the semis but I will say that the Del Potro vs Isner final in Washington this year was a really good one.  :trampoline:

The absolute best tennis I have ever seen was the Novak - Fed semifinal at the 2011 AO.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #121 on: August 15, 2013, 07:37:00 AM »
Big day today. A lot of good matches on tap. Got em all taping at home! Nadal played well, for the most part, last night. He was doing well to get 130+ mph first serves back in the court with decent pace so Becker couldn't finish them, and also he attacked the second serve well. He still had some of those really random, terrible forehand errors, but with how aggressive he's playing, it makes sense that those will crop up every now and then. As long as he keeps the amount of em decently low, I'm cool with it. It obviously produces the needed results. Lauren Davis put up a decent fight for a little while, but eventually fell in the end. Bummer that Stan lost, but it's cool that Robredo's doing so well recently.

All the big 4 in action today! Rafa and Fed both in tough matches with Dimitrov and Haas respectively. Those should be fun to watch! If Goffin plays well, he'll be fun to watch against Djoker. Not expecting much from the Benneteau/Murray match, though. Isner faces up against another huge server in Raonic. Hopefully he can stay strong and let Raonic break himself as he did a few times against Pospi and Nadal in Montreal.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #122 on: August 15, 2013, 07:40:42 AM »
Walking back from another visit to the ATM , I remembered that at the Brad Gilbert talk-fest the other afternoon, Brad mentioned that back in the Andre Agassi years, Andre once hired out the whole of The Beach Water Park for the enjoyment of his friends and associates. No wonder he is remembered with so much affection.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #123 on: August 15, 2013, 08:56:16 AM »
Mertov and I are going to start off at the Grandstand court today. Thanks to court entanglement, we shall also be able to keep track on what is happening in the main Center court.   ||-| :;:-|
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #124 on: August 15, 2013, 09:35:22 AM »
It should be a great day. Thank God, I'll be able to watch all matches on TV  :).

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #125 on: August 15, 2013, 01:32:01 PM »
Djokovic def. Goffin 6:2 6:0 ouch. poor Goffin tried everything, tried to mix it up but nothing worked for him. Djokovic was clinical today. Goffin can play really well, not sure what happened to him today. I guess Nole happened to him  :).
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #126 on: August 15, 2013, 01:36:55 PM »
Tursunov serving for the match against Ferrer. Ferrer is out. Tursunov def. Ferrer 6:2 6:4. I didn't see this one  coming.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #127 on: August 15, 2013, 01:47:19 PM »
Tommy playing well with break up!
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #128 on: August 15, 2013, 02:01:35 PM »
6-1 and a break

Guess who?


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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #129 on: August 15, 2013, 02:11:26 PM »
Tommy you better freaking keep this up  :)>>>>
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #130 on: August 15, 2013, 02:23:35 PM »
I just hope Tommy doesn't f*uck it up although I'm pretty neutral in this match. supporting Lug here  :)). sh!t 15:40

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #131 on: August 15, 2013, 02:40:45 PM »
 :zipped: :scared:
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #132 on: August 15, 2013, 02:43:55 PM »
Hass is going to give me a heart attack btw.

wow, that was a great point for Haas when both players were at the net. beautiful.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #133 on: August 15, 2013, 02:44:33 PM »
this is annoying  :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\ :\
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #134 on: August 15, 2013, 02:47:52 PM »
Regardless of the score, it's still Roger Federer and still Tommy Haas. Fed knows he just has to hang around. If Tommy doesn't blast him off the court--or Roger doesn't give it to him--Fed counts on Haas to implode.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #135 on: August 15, 2013, 02:59:16 PM »
and I'm afraid that Haas will implode. I don't understand why he has such a huge mental block against Fed. This is not your prime Fed. He is shanking left and right, yet Haas gets too impatient and too worked up. Haas should exploit Fed's BH? instead he lets Fed to position himself for FH winners.

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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #136 on: August 15, 2013, 03:24:47 PM »
Terribly gutted because this match was on Tommy's racket. Don't know what to say more.

Gratz to Fed and his fans here. Nice fighting 'til the end.
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #137 on: August 15, 2013, 03:26:00 PM »
Brilliant finish by Fed. Sorry Lug, but Haas has nobody else but himself to blame for this loss. He just went away. Instead of being calm, being aggressive he disappeared after Fed broke him back in the second set.  Even then, he had a chance to win the match in TB if he had held his serve. no, he gets broken again, loses the second set and loses his mind. It's not like Fed played out of his mind.

I said this so many times and I'll say it again. If Haas hadn't been a nutcase he would've been a multiple slam champion. It's too late for slams but still ... Haas is his own biggest enemy.
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #138 on: August 15, 2013, 03:32:47 PM »
He could be a huge clown at times, yes.

It was almost freaking impossible to lose this, even though I knew it could well happen.
Even with the result of 1st and middle of 2nd set I didn't relax one bit. I knew something could terribly go wrong.

A feeling that Haas fans are well aware off, all these years.
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Re: CINCINNATI MASTERS 2013, 12-18 August
« Reply #139 on: August 15, 2013, 04:18:03 PM »
Bummer for Haas, having the lead and then blowing it. Otherwise, pretty easy day for the Big 4 so far. Nole absolutely slaughtered Goffin and Murray seems to be about ready to finish Benneteau off with no trouble. Hope Rafa has an easy day as well! Kerber and Stephens lost, that was unfortunate. Still upset from Bouchard's loss to Serena yesterday after being a set up and Kirilenko going out early. Lauren Davis went the same way as Bouchard. Started out so well, then crashed completely. I can't seem to pick a winner in women's tennis. Even when I started rooting for Ivanovic after she won the French, she decided to spiral downward.

Tursonov pulling the upset over Ferrer. I expected Ferrer to go out soon, but not against Tursonov. Good for Tursonov, though. Going deep as a qualifier. I wonder what the furthest is a quali ever made it in a Master's? He's got Del Po next, and Del Po has been wicked inconsistent recently.

Nice seeing Isner do well to take out Raonic in typical big server style; a tiebreak, then a one break lead in the second, even though he had to come back from a break down in the second. Unfortunately, I don't see him doing much to challenge Djoker next round :/ He's been too inconsistent with his forehand, and those errors will kill him against Nole. Especially considering how good of a returner Nole is, and how Isner's biggest strength is his serve.
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Rafa is the FIRST to qualify for WTF this year! :D