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Offline ImaMadGoat

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« on: December 31, 2004, 12:34:00 PM »
Ok, I think it's safe to say that this is Andre's last season in men's tennis (how many times has that been said?). He's being counted out I think by a lot of people and I don't think many people think he's going to get past Federer. I'm still holding out for Andre.

He played an amazing semi-final match against Safin, he stormed thru Moya, Roddick, and Hewitt this past summer. I think he knows this is his last shot and you gotta know how much he would like to go out with a slam under his belt and a win over Federer. He gave Federer the hardest match he has to face at the US open....no one else took him to 5 sets. He has played better against him each time he's played him....Smoked in the masters....better in Indian Wells, and even better at the US Open. The article at the bottom of this post has Federer touting that he still considers Andre a "major threat"....not Roddick.....he talked about Andre.

I'm holding out for the A-train...whether it's in Austrailia or The US....I want him to see one more slam. He's prolly working harder during this off season than he has ever worked before....I truly truly hope it pays off for him this year.

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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2004, 12:39:53 PM »
with the talent thats in the game today, it would take a huge twist of fate, as well as a few injuires and or 5 set matches for his opponents before they play him, for him to have a shot.  he doenst have that big of a game.  his groundies are good, but federer will blow him off the court.  yes ye,s the us open quarters . . . teh wind was 40 mph gusts.  i t was a joke of a match, and yet agassi with the oversize racquet, and compact strokes, still lost.  i would love to see agassi tdo well, but a slam is too much to expect at this stage.
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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2004, 01:39:30 PM »
Hummer, that's an insane assumption to make in my opinion.

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he doenst have that big of a game


You've gotta be joking me. You don't win 8 slams with a game that's not big. You don't dominate the best player of all time (Pete Sampras) with a small or weak game. Andre does not have a small game, he's one of the game's legends, by far and I dont think anyone can ever doubt his talent.

Andre may not play with the extreme power of Roddick or the extrem finesse of Roger but I think he's a happy medium between the two which makes his game so unique because he can rely on one or the other when things get rough. He has an incredible mental game that has allowed him to fight through so many tough matches throughout the years. And besides, I'd like to see you win the Australian Open after the age of 30.

How could you think the US Open Quarters were a joke? That was easily the most amazing match of the entire tournament, on the men's side. Andre fought and though he still lost, he put up the best competition against Federer. In my opinion, even in his relatively old age, Andre is the only competition for Federer. He blew away Hewitt and Roddick this summer, the only two aside from Marat, that stand a chance at hanging with Federer and had that wind not been so intense he certainly would've taken down Fed too in the US Open.

How can you possibly doubt Andre's talent?  ;;)  That's crazy....

He's still got it in him for sure and he won't need injuries or a twist of fate. On any given day, Andre can get out there and blow most any player off the court with any part of his game. The only question may be his fitness but I think the AO is Andre's throne and he knows that he wants to take this one if perhaps this is his last season. He's definitely got the game to take it..and I hope he does.

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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2004, 02:25:10 PM »
i agree, agassi was really good.  parts of this year, he really showed his game adn played great.  how many times has he beaten federer last year? none.  he isnt getting any younger, and all these other guys like hewitt, roddick,  and safin are training harder to try and beat federer.  agassi has no chance at a slam next year.  yeah a mental game is good to have of course, and agassi does have it, although he has trouble over coming some challenges.  he had a lot of trouble with sampras at teh open, losing in the final in that match with all those tiebreaks.  federer is better than sampras, adn much more deadly to a player like agassi.  agassi relies on moving his opponent around.  federer does it better than agassi.  unless agassi really gets himself commited and in shape like sampras did before his last us open win, i dont think he can win another slam.  and now your saying .. . well sampras did it when everyone counted him out.  yeah he did.  he has a huge serve.  agassi has an efficient serve, adn efficient strokes.  federer is better in every way, and younger as well.  its over for agassi slam wise.  fed won how many tournies last year?  10.  what about agassi?  1.  and over their careers, yeah agassi is better and hes acomplished more.  just give federer time.  agassi's time is up.
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2004, 02:27:04 PM »
sry, fed has 11 titles this year.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2004, 02:47:45 PM »
Federer's game may look more efficient from the outside and sure his results may scream 'I'm a better player' than Agassi. But who did Roger lose to in Cincinatti? Exactly...

He's just as vulnerable as any other player and he almost got spanked by agassi as flushing meadows.

That match was too close to say either one of them will always win. It'll be a tossup whenever they play, I'm sure.

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2004, 03:03:11 PM »
remember master cup 2003.  fed won both times, and the final was
6-3 6-0 6-4.  yeah, your boy with the stellar mental gfame got bageled.  federer's game is too much for anyone else in the world, let alone agassi.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2004, 05:20:13 PM »
The match Agassi went 5 sets with Fed is was windy as hell.  Andre grew up in severe wind and has always been a great wind player, that was a nicer advantage for AA and made the match more interesting.  But in my honest opinion there are a few guys who can challange Federer and AA is definetly one of them...
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2004, 05:28:00 PM »
:)~ , told ya lol

Im messin with ya but you can't question AA's talent. And I think what u said was way off, hummer. I think we should jsut face it, AA is still one of the best in the field. Even against federer

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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2004, 05:36:50 PM »
I would only give AA the edge at the FO, beyond that, Federer will always be the favorite.  But AA is getting older and he needs to be very efficient in the slams.  He cannot be dicking around with 5 setters early on.  He needs to take care of business.  I tell you what he has impressed me on, his serve.  he racks up some good aces there days, and that will make a big difference over the span of 7 matches not having to play out those points.  Over 7 matches, 8 aces per match, that is 2 sets worth of points...  Yikes!
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2004, 06:29:53 PM »
so do you honostly believe that agassi will win a grand slam next year?  i cant see that happening.  which slam you think hes gonna win??  the aussia, that federer has been domonant at last year?  the same oone that safin took out agassi at?  the same one hewitt is training hisa ss off for?  maybe its the french?  aggassi isnt really good on clay, but you think he can become good?  even though he is old, you think he can get quick adn fit enough to out gun hte big topspin hitters adn last in the long rallies in the heat in france?  perhaps he is going to win wimbledon?  hes going to stop federer from a 3peat where he has been so dominant taht no one has had a chance.  to even try that, he has to get past either roddick or hewitt, both very good grasscourt players.  roddick's strokes are more explosive than agassis and hewitt is much quicker around the court.  So that leaves the us open.  you think he is going to make a last run similar to sampras?  this is the most plausible i suppose, but to do this he has to get past roddick, federer, safin, hewitt, nadal, and all the other young guns.  im not question agassi's talent, becasue he was a great player.  he changed his game to conform with the times and came back form his personal problems.  i just dont think he has what it takes to take out the top guns.  the only way we can tell is to watch tennis next year and see.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2004, 06:35:00 PM »
Easy there killer, I didn't say he was going to win a slam.  If he does it will have to be the AO.  Federer is like Sampras at Wimbledon, no way in hell I can see him losing there.

AA loves the AO, he has won it several times.  He has won the FO before, so we know he can play on clay.  But against today's clay courters I say no way.

The AO and the US Open will be his best runs, or at least the ones he has the best chance to do something.  DO not forget it took an unbelieveable Safin to take him out at the AO last year.  Heck, that match was deemed one of the best of the year.

In the end, I see him gettign deep into week two of most slams except the FO.  Beyond that, he will need to be be ready for the trenches, because in week 2 the big guns will be there too.  He is definetly a big gun, but can he still beat 2 or 3 of them on a row?  That will be the true test...
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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2004, 11:54:28 PM »
indeed.  well said.  happy new year yall.
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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2005, 09:44:55 AM »
I think scott's expressing my sentiments here. I'm am in no way pulling for aggassi to dominate the year. I think he's going to land in the top 10, and I think he's going to get deep into the second week of the AO and the US open. That's what I THINK is going to happen.....i HOPE that he wins one of the two and I HOPE that he defeats Federer. I think he can still do it and I hope he does.

This is going to be a great year for men's tennis!

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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2005, 09:46:59 AM »
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2005, 11:17:29 AM »
lol, I was wondering who that was.
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2005, 01:09:52 PM »
I didnt wanna make a new thread for this but I wanted to ask, is there a new ncode out? I saw Venus using a blue and silver one?? And I havent seen that one around anywhere. Here's the link to the pic. Couldn't host it myself...didnt think it was the new one Wilson was sponsoring her with becuz the logo isn't on it. So I figured maybe it was a tester or like a practice stick or something...dunno. Scott, lemme know what u think.

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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2005, 01:58:26 PM »
Looks a very nice racket

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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2005, 02:04:57 PM »
Looks like a N6, but blue like her old H4's.  Speaking of nCodes, new models this year are : nTour, nPro, nPro Surge, nPS95
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2005, 05:00:54 PM »
Interesting, I looked at Tenniswarehosue and searched the web but found out no information.  

Also interesting to note they are coming out with more "n" racquets.  Let me see what I can find out about her racquet.
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