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Are you sick of all these Federer threads?

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Offline wilsonboy

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« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2005, 01:17:52 PM »
I think that that is a common misconception. I believe that the WTA tends to be more popular than the ATP b/c it is much easier to pick your favorites. In other words, the WTA is so much more popular because they have more players who stand out from the rest. The ATP players all seem to be so evenly matched in skills (with a few exceptions like Federer, Nadal, etc.) that the rankings just jump all over the place.
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2005, 03:01:03 PM »
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I think that that is a common misconception. I believe that the WTA tends to be more popular than the ATP b/c it is much easier to pick your favorites. In other words, the WTA is so much more popular because they have more players who stand out from the rest. The ATP players all seem to be so evenly matched in skills (with a few exceptions like Federer, Nadal, etc.) that the rankings just jump all over the place.


In other words the lack of depth in womens depth makes it better.     ..-)

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« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2005, 03:04:57 PM »
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In other words the lack of depth in womens depth makes it better.     ..-)


Actually, in a way, that's true...
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2005, 03:09:50 PM »
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Quote from: "wilsonboy"
I think that that is a common misconception. I believe that the WTA tends to be more popular than the ATP b/c it is much easier to pick your favorites. In other words, the WTA is so much more popular because they have more players who stand out from the rest. The ATP players all seem to be so evenly matched in skills (with a few exceptions like Federer, Nadal, etc.) that the rankings just jump all over the place.


In other words the lack of depth in womens depth makes it better.     ..-)


I know we've talked about this before, but look no further than the ATP for a lack of depth.

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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2005, 03:28:17 PM »
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Why, did you think I wanted to?  I ain't like that.


Then you might not want to insult players who have some pretty diehard fans on here.  :)


Well, I'm sorry if I offended somebody but I didn't think someone would take it so seriously.  If someone diissed fed then I honestly wouldn't care.

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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2005, 03:33:21 PM »
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Why, did you think I wanted to?  I ain't like that.


Then you might not want to insult players who have some pretty diehard fans on here.  :)


Well, I'm sorry if I offended somebody but I didn't think someone would take it so seriously.  If someone diissed fed then I honestly wouldn't care.


It's one thing to talk about a player, but so far you've called Sharapova a zit-faced teen, Serena a man in a dress, and Mauresmo a transsexual. It's fine not to like a player and even talk S H I T about them sometimes, but there is a limit. No one else on this board is making those kinds of comments, so from here on out you need to watch what you say.

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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2005, 04:05:26 PM »
How is that for messing with you?

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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2005, 04:47:32 PM »
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How is that for messing with you?


 That comment about Mauresmo might not have been the smoothest thing to say.

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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2005, 05:04:42 PM »
BBB is a mod. You'd be best served by taking what he says and remembering it rather than picking fights.

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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2005, 05:07:49 PM »
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BBB is a mod. You'd be best served by taking what he says and remembering it rather than picking fights.

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« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2005, 05:22:32 PM »
Yikes, you do not want to piss off 2 mods yo.  Deep breath, and get back on track with the tennis chatter.  :)
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« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2005, 06:10:29 AM »
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Yikes, you do not want to piss off 2 mods yo.  Deep breath, and get back on track with the tennis chatter.  :)


 :a) lol
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« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2005, 02:13:21 PM »
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Yikes, you do not want to piss off 2 mods yo.  Deep breath, and get back on track with the tennis chatter.  :)


Way to subtely put your foot down. I'm so proud.

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« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2005, 02:32:50 PM »
Arc, can you make me a Serena signature that matches your Venus one?
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« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2005, 03:41:27 PM »
Hey guys i just acted like an idiot so, sorry. lets forget about it.

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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2005, 06:05:37 PM »
aw, how mature federerfan. props for apologizing y0. that was big of you.

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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2005, 06:19:51 PM »
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In other words the lack of depth in womens depth makes it better.     ..-)


I know we've talked about this before, but look no further than the ATP for a lack of depth.[/quote]

I only vaguely recall our prior conversation on the lack of depth on the ATP tour.     I think it had something to do with Federer's dominance, in which case would be the same as saying the equivalent during Serena's dominance on the WTA tour in 2002-2003 IMO.    If there is more to it than that, feel free to enlighten me again however.     ;)

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« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2005, 06:32:52 PM »
Basically, I was saying that on the women's side, you have several players (I'd say at least 5) who could win most slams/tournaments, but they are miles ahead of all the other women. Conversely on the men's side, you have ONE player who will win everything but the rest could almost be upset at any time.

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« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2005, 06:41:43 PM »
Ok now I do remember our initial conversation.    My response, and still held belief, is that the reason there are more woman who can win slams today, than men, is only because there is no single woman playing at a dominant level, the Serena of 2002 of 2003, Venus of 2001 or 2003, and possably even Henin of 2003-early 2004, in my opinion would dominate in a year like this year, probably winning 3 of the 4 slams.      However no woman is currently playing at that level for any substained length of time, thus the top group are more evenly matched, and more balanced in their chances of winning major events.      If it were not for Federer Roddick, Hewitt, Nadal, Safin, and Agassi would all have reasonable chances to win any slam, except for Roddick or Agassi at the French, and Nadal or Agassi at Wimbledon.      Also Roddick, Hewitt, and Agassi do regularly reach late rounds of non-clay events, atleast 70% of the time, Nadal is still unpredicatable in his showings on non-clay surfaces, very dangerous yet very vurnerable all at once, and Safin is Safin.

          That being said that argument would have more grounds this year than had it been last year.   Atleast with Henin, Clijsters, Venus, and Serena splitting the 4 slams, Sharapova reaching 3 semis, and Davenport reaching 2 finals; the quality argument is more valid than last year where you had Myskina win a grand slam, Dementieva with a worse serve than she has now reach 2 slam finals, Saurez reach French semis and Wimbledon quarters back to back, and Zuluaga and Schnyder reach a slam semifinal at the same slam.

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« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2005, 06:45:13 PM »
Wouldn't you consider Clijsters to be dominating now. I mean she has the most titles this year (I think). And she doesn't seem to be slowing down very much.
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