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« on: January 30, 2005, 02:53:46 PM »
These are draw permitting of course, which in almost certainty they wont, that is why I chose alternates choices as well.


French Open women:            

winner-Myskina
finalist-Henin Hardenne
semis-Clijsters
semis-Sharapova
alternate #1-Serena
alternate #2-Dementieva
alternate #3-Kuznetsova
alternate #4-Saurez


French Open men:

winner-Coria
finalist-Nalbandian
semis-Nadal
semis-Lopez
alternate #1-Moya
alternate #2-Calleri
alternate #3-Gaudio
alternate #4-Federer


Wimbledon women:

winner-Sharapova
finalist-Serena
semis-Davenport
semis-Venus
alternate #1-Kuznetsova
alternate #2-Sharapova
alternate #3-Petrova
alternate #4-Molik



Wimbledon men:

winner-Federer
finalist-Roddick
semis-Henman
semis-Agassi
alternate #1-Schalken
alternate #2-Johansson(Joachim)
alternate #3-Johansson(Thomas)
alternate #4-Hewitt


U.S open women:

winner-Sharapova
finalist-Capriati
semis-Serena
semis-Davenport
alternate #1-Zvonareva
alternate #2-Clijsters
alternate #3-Henin
alternate #4-Molik


U.S open men:

winner-Federer
finalist-Agassi
semis-Roddick
semis-Hewitt
alternate #1-Mirnyi
alternate #2-Haas
alternate #3-Grosjean
alternate #4-Nalbandian

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 03:01:38 PM »
What happened to your bold statement that Federer wouldn't win a Slam this year?

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2005, 03:27:03 PM »
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French Open women:            

winner-Myskina

Hahahaha.

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2005, 04:49:56 PM »
It seems at the French Open, any top 10 woman playing on clay who can play a match with no more than 20% more the errors than winners in the late rounds is a lock to win.   So Myskina who makes very few mistakes, even if very few winners at times, makes perfect sense.   Check the match stats of Serena, and even Henin-Hardenne the years they won.   Myskina's last year were clearly cleaner.

         I dont think Roger will win a slam this year, I picked him for Wimbledon and the U.S with my heart, not my head.

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2005, 05:01:46 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2005, 05:51:34 PM »
Henin Hardenne & Clijsters making it far into the French? You've gotta be joking me...

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2005, 06:14:51 PM »
They both have been in the finals.  Heck Justine won the thing,
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2005, 07:08:47 PM »
What would be unreasonable about picking Henin or Myskina to win the French, as oppose to somebody like Serena?   They tend to make fewer errors in long rallies, and that is often what wins out on clay.   Henin at her best is definitely the best clay courter I think.

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2005, 07:31:57 PM »
Henin's got tendinitis in her knee. She'll need some time to recover and by the time the French Open rolls around, she will be too rusty to match shots with the hard women hitters such as Sharapova, Williams or Davenport.

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2005, 07:40:03 PM »
The French Open is four months away.   I would say thats lots of time for her to recover assuming she doesnt get an energy-sapping virus again.

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2005, 07:42:29 PM »
As for Sharapova or Davenport being a major threat at the French Open?   I would be very surprised.    Sharapova took advantage of a dream draw, except for a good win over Zvonareva to reach the quarters, and her discomfort for the red stuff was exploited in spades by quality journeywoman Paola Saurez.   Davenport?   Her career record at the French versus other slams says it all.

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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2005, 08:09:33 PM »
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What would be unreasonable about picking Henin or Myskina to win the French, as oppose to somebody like Serena?   They tend to make fewer errors in long rallies, and that is often what wins out on clay.   Henin at her best is definitely the best clay courter I think.


I think Henin being the best clay court player has yet to be seen. She doesn't have the best record on clay (compared to other players), she really hasn't won that many titles on clay, and really hasn't done anything to make her eminent from the rest of the pack on clay.

As for the fewer errors, that will only get you so far. Both Henin-Hardenne and Serena won the French by being aggressive, IMO. Myskina won by simply allowing her opponents to deconstruct (Venus, Capriati, Dementieva). Out of everyone in the top 10 (and almost top 20), Myskina winning again would surprise me the most.  Or maybe it's that her game just never impressed me.

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2005, 09:08:38 PM »
I agree BBB, I do not expect Myskina to win the FO again.  

Henin's game is great for all surfaces.  If she stays healthy and play at the top of her game I would give her an excellent chance at the FO, I would say the same about Serena.
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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2005, 10:13:09 PM »
Yaeh but who in the right mind seriously thinks she will be back on court playing AND playing good enough to compete by the time the French rolls around?

I think by that time -- both Serena and Venus will be on fire again. Not to mention HUNGRY Davenport and young Sharapova. Throw in the other players who aren't necessarily top players but gr8 on clay like Suarez....

I dont think there's gonne be any room for Clijsters at all -- Justine perhaps to make it to the second week if she's lucky but definitely not to win.

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Think about it -- the surface that she's actually been more succesul on (hard court) at the US OPEN -- she'd had a few weeks to practice (the Olympics) and still got crushed by who? NADIA PETROVA!! A good player but not the type you'd expect to whoop the formre world no. 1.

C'mon...winning the open? Yeah right..

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2005, 09:22:46 AM »
Between 2001-2003 I would say Henin had the best overall record of any woman on clay, even considering her disaesterous 1st round loss in 2003 due mainly to injury.    She won 4 significant clay court tournaments in 2002 and 2003(tier 1s or tier 2s which have about the same quality field), and was in the finals of another, i.   I would say that is better than any of her rivals record on clay.

         Arforce, if you laugh at the thought of Henin winning the French, I laugh twice as hard on Venus being a threat to win the French.   Venus has become mrs. fourth round in the slams, and unlike her sister, it is unclear to me whether she can return to the very top of womens tennis at all.   Her technical flaws are being exposed, and she has shown no real progress in her game in years, with others improving has caught up to her.   Even if she does return to the top group it certainly wont be on clay.   Henin in my opinion is a far superior clay courter to Venus, there only two matches on clay where when Venus was at the very top and Henin was a second pack contender.    Henin won one 6-4, 6-1 and choked away a 6-1, 4-0 lead in the other.    Those chokes dont occur anymore when she is healthy and fit.    If Henin did come back and lose to Venus on clay, I would wonder if she should have come back at all.   :;:-|

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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2005, 09:26:49 AM »
Arforce, I would also consider Clijsters as good or better a clay courter than Venus, and much better than Davenport or Sharapova.   Honestly what have Davenport and Sharapova done to prove themselves on the surface?   Clijsters has been to the finals of the French twice.    Davenport to one semi in a long career, Sharapova one quarter where she was humiliated by a solid journeywomen.    She also won her last meeting on clay with Venus in 2002, again before Clijsters rose to 2 in the world, and back when Venus was 1 or 2 regularly in the world.

        No room for Henin and Clijsters?   If at their best again, Henin imparticular, and even Clijsters, will have no problem booting Davenport, Sharapova, and probably Venus out of the room on clay.

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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2005, 09:28:14 AM »
Henin admitted she wasnt ready to return by the U.S open, her virus was not yet out of her system.  That is why she lost to Petrova so badly.  Her virus is gone now, it is only her knee injury.  I predict she will be fine.

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« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2005, 10:01:00 AM »
How bad is her knee.  I thought she was only dealing with the virus infection.  I am behind the times!

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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2005, 11:30:36 PM »
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Arforce, if you laugh at the thought of Henin winning the French, I laugh twice as hard on Venus being a threat to win the French.


Are we forgetting Venus' performance on clay last year?

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2005, 06:06:15 AM »
I actually forget her preformance last year.  I assume she did well?
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