Who was comparing? I never said anything about Venus' career titles on clay. But here are some statistics.
You were pointing out Henin won only four tournaments on clay, as to to me inflating her clay court ability. I was just pointing out she has only been near the top of the game half as long as Venus Williams. The key is she has won those four all in the last three years, more than anybody in that span.
On the clay court career stats (having played at least 25 tournaments), here's where they are:
10. Justine Henin-Hardenne (100-22, .820)
11. Martina Hingis (94-21, .817)
12. Venus Williams (75-17, .815)
So, overall, they are separated by .005 in their careers on clay court. I imagine if Venus actually played more warmups for the French, it'd be about the same. And to think that it's her "weakest" surface and Justine's "strongest."
Considering Henin spent 3 clay courtseasons out of the top 10, and Venus only 1 out of 8, Henin narrowly having the better winning pct. in spite of that only speaks more in favor of her superiority on clay to me.
What does it being Venus's weakest surface or Henin's best have to do with anything? I was not saying Henin in career greatness is a greater general player than Venus at this point. I was comparing their chances at the French.
That pretty much covers both of their peaks (although if you want to get down to it, Justine's peak was picking up Serena's scraps but that's another story). Clijsters doesn't even warrant discussion.
And maybe I need to make this clearer: no one is saying Venus will win the French. No one is saying Justine is not an excellent clay court player. My point is that a) Venus cannot be ruled out in spite of what everyone believes about her clay court record and b) Justine is not the be-all, end-all of clay court tennis.
Justine's career was picking up Serena's scraps? I am sorry but her defeat of Serena on her way to winning the French Open and her courageous perforance in the U.S open semis against Capriati warrants greater recognition than that and gets it from those of importance in the game. Anyway winning every slam when Serena is injured or not in top form isnt so easy to do, Venus certainly demonstrates this doesnt she.
Clijsters doesnt even warrant discussion? So let me see, somebody who has made two French Open finals in his career, who won their only head to head meeting on clay when the older player was at her peak and she was not; does not even warrant discussion and somebody over two years older with only one French Open final appearance does, alas while it is now apparent the older player is not near top form, and since the younger player has not returned it is quite conceivable that she might or might not be. So the latter player warrants the greater consideration of being a threat at the French? I apologize but I dont understand this reasoning at all, atleast until we know Clijsters too wont return at top form, like Venus. You seem to acknowledge in most would disagree with you on Venus's chances at the French this year. Let me join that list and leave it at that.