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« on: February 05, 2005, 08:17:08 PM »
I got bored, wrote an article...  Thoughts?

The VOLLEY LOB – Something to Consider as part of your Doubles’ Strategy
 
Why Use the Volley Lob
 
The Volley Lob (which I will abbreviate as VL) is one of my favorite volleys to hit, because it allows you to throw your opponent off-stride; consequently, it should require them to make an adjustment in their strategy.

When used correctly, the VL can be the shot that shifts the advantage to you, since, initially, your opponents rarely expect it and, subsequently, they must be wary that you may use it again.
On the other hand, be careful, because it can also be a very foolish shot, if used at the wrong time.  
 
It is important to mention, upfront, that the VL is a shot rarely used in singles; rather, it is typically reserved for doubles’ play. The VL in doubles can be perceived as the equivalent of the drop shot in singles to catch your opponent off guard.  
 
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How to Hit a VL
 
There are 4 keys to hitting a successful VL:
 
·      Hit a VL ONLY when you are able to hit it at your waist level or higher. If you try it off a low volley, it will give your opponent too much time to react and to adjust their position for an overhead return.  
 
·      Hit the VL over the opponent directly in front of you. This gives your opponents less time to react to it and, therefore, it greatly reduces their chances for an overhead return. Hitting over the net man diagonally opposite to you is, obviously, a longer distance shot; so it is suggested that you avoid this placement, since it provides your opponent the extra little time to recognize what you’ve done and to react accordingly.
 
·      Hit the VL at this opponent’s backhand. This way, if he is able to react in time and get to the ball, he may only have a chance to return with a defensive, high, backhand volley.  
 
·      Keep the VL low, because your opponents will have less time to run down a VL that doesn’t go 15 feet or more in the air.  
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When to Use the VL
 
If you are thinking of adding the VL to your array of shots, it is critical to remember that the VL should be used ASAP in a doubles’ match. Doing this, when the opportunity first presents itself, will help you dictate to your opponents how you want the match to be played.  
 
There are a couple of positions that your opponents can be in that will make the VL an effective shot for you.
 
First, the most advantageous one for you is when you are playing aggressive net players who camp out at the net. These types desire to keep moving forward after each volley, intending to be right on top of the net for their next volley. When they are moving forward and are close to the net, it will be tough for them to react to the VL, since they expecting a ‘regular volley’ from you to pounce on.
 
Let’s repeat that; it’s important!
 
The VL works best, when all four players are at the net. Thus, if you are playing a team that plays the one up and one back, then do NOT use the VL, because the back player will run down the lob every time.  
 
Wait until your opponents are moving forward in tandem. If you hit the VL properly over the head of the opponent directly in front of you, as described above, this opponent will always have to stop, and then immediately attempt to backpedal in order to hit an overhead.  As a matter of fact, I have discovered that this opponent is usually very surprised and he just freezes; so their only hope is for the partner to chase your VL down. In which case, you have just moved your opponents to the one up and one back formation, which is ideal for you.  
 
Second, when your last volley has wrong-footed an opponent and while he is getting back into position to move to the net, then hit the VL. Here, it makes little difference whether he is moving sideways or forward (better for you) toward the net, since he has been wrong-footed and is now on the move; it takes above-average agility for him to untangle himself, move forward, and then backpedal within a very short span.
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When NOT to Use the VL
 
There are certain doubles players who are moderately aggressive. They prefer to approach the net, but they hang out several feet from the net. They establish their position from barely inside the service line. The VL should NOT be used, when they are so situated. Here, the VL will never work, because they are too far from the net to be surprised and there is not enough area for you to work with effectively.  
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Conclusion
 
The VL is a shot that should be used selectively. As we all know, the drop shot in singles prevents your opponent from consistently assuming a comfortable position 4 feet behind the baseline; similarly, the VL in doubles keeps your opponents honest and doesn’t allow them to be overly aggressive at the net.
Show them that you can hit the VL ASAP in the match, so they will immediately know from the “start” that they can get burned for being overly aggressive. When necessary, simply remind them by repeating the shot. I typically hit the VL 2-3 times in a regular doubles match.  
 
IMO, when executed correctly, the VL will be a formidable additional to your arsenal.
 
Do yourself a favor and Try it!
Good Luck on the Court!!!
Scott Baker
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2005, 08:57:37 PM »
Lob?  Drop shot?  What is that?
I was at this casino minding my own business, and this guy came up to me and said, "You're gonna have to move, you're blocking a fire exit." As though if there was a fire, I wasn't gonna run. If you're flammible and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit.  - Mitch Hedberg

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2005, 08:59:15 PM »
Well, when you have the raw talent that Jamesdster has, you do not need this crap I write about.  You just kick the authors a$$ and embarress him badly.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2005, 09:06:35 PM »
lol at Scott
I was at this casino minding my own business, and this guy came up to me and said, "You're gonna have to move, you're blocking a fire exit." As though if there was a fire, I wasn't gonna run. If you're flammible and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit.  - Mitch Hedberg

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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2005, 11:16:02 PM »
I thought Jamesdster had a bad knee? And he still whoops you, Scott?

He must have mad skillz. Enough to rival illLogic possibly?

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2005, 12:14:37 AM »
sounds famillair...

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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2005, 12:52:00 AM »
I dont have a bad knee tightboy!...foot fault! <---inside joke

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2005, 01:16:22 AM »
that was horrible the gurls were already gettin spankin them then the ref calls foot fault they were fina cry it was classic

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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2005, 07:50:17 AM »
Jamesdster does have a bad knee, I haven't played him when it has really bothered him, but still, he indeed has mad skillz.
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« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2005, 10:55:59 AM »
Tennis4You,
I'm finished. Please see TAT.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2005, 11:50:02 AM »
One of the newer posters is supposed to be pretty good, right?  tmd or tmid or something like that.  

How many people here have digital cameras?  We should post quicktime movies of ourselves hitting our strokes.  I could totally do it.  Just too lazy.

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2005, 12:07:54 PM »
Crap, now I forget who it is too.  I am not sure who I could get to film me.  No wait, I am a retard.  My best friend does video taping for people.  I bet he could come to one of my next outdoor matches and get it taped.  But I think he just tapes it and then turns it over, he doesn't do editing and I am pretty sure he does not know how to make it a pc ready file.

We would love to see some clips though!  I woudl host them on my site if you didn't have anywhere to host them.
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2005, 12:13:22 PM »
I can't do vids but I can probably do pics of my strokes... :|

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2005, 12:18:55 PM »
either would be cool.  And I thought of the person I think McIll is referring to.  Jimdster is a 5.0 that plays at the club I play at.  He is tough.  And to make matters worse he is a lefty.  I have not broken his serve in 5 matches.  His USTA level might say 4.5, but do not be fooled.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2005, 01:28:10 PM »
No, I was thinking of TimD818.  

And you know what?  I think I know the guy.  Are you still around TimD?  Ever play at UCLA?

edit:  well, I was looking over some posts and if he uses a Dunlop racket then it's not the guy I'm thinking of.

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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2005, 01:32:58 PM »
Oh, by the way, most digital cameras have a movie function that allows you to shoot little quicktime movies in avi format.  I have a digital camcorder, too.  Maybe I'll post some footage of guys I shot back in NYC.

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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2005, 02:58:21 PM »
Tennis4You,

What does NV mean--on the TAT Board, you wrote "NV, Thx".

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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2005, 06:35:18 PM »
Should of been VN, very nice.  :)
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2005, 09:40:05 PM »
I appreciate all the concern about my knee.  I tore the acl in my right knee a long time ago, back in the days before acls could ever be repaired.  So, I've been playing without an acl since 1976, even played college tennis without, although on an NAIA level.  Then, last July, I traveled to the WV Open (which I play every year in beautiful Oglebay Park outside Wheeling) and tore the miniscus in the same knee.  I took about 5 months off then started playing again recently.  Some days the knee hurts so much I literally can't play, then other times it feels relatively good.

I haven't played Scott since reinjuring the thing, but if he catches me on a day when the knee isn't good, place your money on him, I know I will.  Scott is as fast as anyone I've seen on court.  So, without a wheel...FUH GETTABOUTIT!!
I was at this casino minding my own business, and this guy came up to me and said, "You're gonna have to move, you're blocking a fire exit." As though if there was a fire, I wasn't gonna run. If you're flammible and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit.  - Mitch Hedberg

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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2005, 07:17:47 AM »
I use this shot here and there and I have been burned by this shot here and there.  I play more singles than doubles.