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Offline kittens25

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Other than Roger Federer at Wimbledon is anybody a lock?
« on: February 08, 2005, 08:21:48 AM »
Obviously Roger Federer is a lock to win this years Wimbledon.  However other than him is there any lock for any of the remaining womens and mens slams.   At this point I would call Serena the favorite for Wimbledon but not a lock, Sharapova won it all last year, Venus if she miraceously returns to form has won it twice, Davenport is playing reasonably well and has won it.   Kuznetsova has the game to potentially
win it if she returns to form(she seems off for the moment though).   Henin can even play well on grass but would need to avoid Serena since her game doesnt match up well with her on grass.  

      For the U.S for women it is again open to alot of players.   Serena cant be seen as unbeatable on hard courts based on her Aussie Open win.
That could change by then but as of now a number have a shot to win.   Federer is not a lock for the U.S open I believe.   Safin, Roddick, Agassi,
have all beaten him on hard courts.   I believe he will win it, he will come back determined from his Aussie Open flop but he is not a total lock.

      For the French it goes without saying both mens and womens is wide open.   Coria may be the favorite but cant be considered even close to a lock after choking away a final last year as a huge favorite.   Ferrero in his form of two years ago would be almost a lock but is far from that.

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2005, 08:25:19 AM »
I cannot imagine Federer being threatened by too many people.  Roddick's serve is nasty on grass, but I think he played the match of his life last time in the finals and it was not good enough.  Reagrdless, with that serve you can never count him out.

Agassi has always been tough there, and it will be easy on his body.

I wish we could say Marat, hopefully he will be a nice suprise.

Henman is hurt now and I doubt he will get to the finals.  

Hewitt has won it before, but I think the chances of that happening again are slim.

Nalbandian?  Probably not.

I would love to see Max Miryni do well here, get to a semi or something, that would be HUGE for him.  He just needs a better ground game.

I think I would put my money on Federer.

The real question is, how can Federer do at the FO.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2005, 09:17:37 AM »
To be honest, I think Federer prety much has Wimbledon in the bag already. OK, so he lost to Safin, but he still had match point in that one, and his game is Sampras-like on grass. With that serve, Roddick is a definite factor and he would have won Wimbledon the last two years had it not been for Federer. Roddick needs to start getting into the net more to cut off the points before they get to the long baseline rallies, and this would especially help him on grass.

Grass is possibly Hewitt's best surface, so he can be considered a contender; the quickness of the surface and the low bounce allows his flat groundstrokes to get more bite than they would on clay or a slow meduim-bouncing hardcourt like at the AO. However, it should be pointed out that when Hewitt won Wimbledon 2002, he had a joke of a draw; playing only 1 Top 10 player, and that was Henman in the semis who had a injured shoulder and couldn't serve properly to save his life. Had Agassi received that draw, he probably would have won Wimbledon that year, Hewitt's opponents were all baseliners: Shalkcen, Nalbandian etc.

Tim Henman asserts that the courts at Wimbledon have slowed down substantially over the last 5 years or so, and that helps guys like Agassi, Hewitt and Nalbandian, but hinders Tim, although there is now little doubt that his best chances of ending the long British wait are behind him. I also wouldn't count out Mario Ancic, the last guy to beat Federer at Wimbledon (first round in 2002).

It would be a big long shot for Agassi to triumph again at Wimbeldon, but if he's serving well and, say, Federer withdraws due to injury, it is not totally out of the question. It would be on of the biggest stories in sport ever as Agassi would be winning Wimbledon 13 (!) years after his first title there, which would be the longest gap ever between Wimbledon wins.

However, it's been two years since Agassi even played on grass, apart from his first round loss to Andreev at Queens last year. He then pulled out of Wimbledon citing a wrist injury, when really it was due to a complete lack of confidence. Agassi knew that, due to his dip in form, there was a strong possibility that he would lose early on at Wimbledon, and he believed that it was not worth taking that risk because the calls for him to retire would have grown louder than ever before. He skipped the post-match press conference at Queens last year because he knew all the questions would be retirement-related.

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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2005, 09:22:50 AM »
I wouldn't necessarily say Federer is a lock at the Big W (although certainly the favorite).  I wouldn't want to return Johanssen's surve on grass, I can tell you that!  If he can ace Andre 51 times in Australia, what would that equate to on grass???  I could see he and Federer playing a few tbs.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2005, 09:31:36 AM »
I forgot about Johannson, with that serve he is a definite contender.

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2005, 09:37:11 AM »
Reading through these posts I totally forgot about Johannson as well.  How did he do last year at Wimbledon?  It seems as if he would have the game to do very well there.  I was more than impressed with his AO preformance against a 4-5 time champion.

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2005, 09:49:16 AM »
JJ is a threat on any surface except clay. He'll beat a lot of players that can't return but look at what happened when he ran into Agassi at AO and Hewitt at USO last year. He relies too much on his serve and huge forehand (a la Roddick) and not enough strategy. But when Safin beat Federer, it gives everyone hope. The season just started and anything could happen.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2005, 11:23:09 AM »
I think Marat can be there in the final.
With his head on straight and new found confidence he can beat Roger on grass.

We'll just have to wait and see what developes. I don't think that Andre figures to go past the quarters. Andy doesn't have the back court game to win when he gets into long rallies. Lleyton is a possible semi-finalist.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2005, 12:11:59 PM »
Federer, Safin, Roddick, J. Johannson, Hewitt would all be posibilities.  I think Federer is the man to beat, subject as always to being healthy.  Safin can do it provided he is mentally there.  Roddick could win, if his serve is working well; but he also needs to work on getting into the net.  Johannson could get there simply by serving enough people off the court; however, to beat Federer or Safin I think he'd he'd have to play the match of his life.  Hewitt is always dangerous, but I'd have to give Federer's game the edge on grass.  I don't think any of the other men look like finalists right now.  Agassi is a threat to the quarters, but I think not beyond (much as I'd hope).

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2005, 12:55:11 PM »
Quote from: "kittens25"
Obviously Roger Federer is a lock to win this years Wimbledon.
He was a lock to win AO too and look what happened. Nobody is a lock on anything.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2005, 04:37:51 PM »
Federer is obviously the favorite, but I'd give Marat a chance as well. I've known for years that he is better than his results indicate, and hopefully this can be the year that he starts to fulfill his potential. Hewitt has won Wimbledon, so he's a mild threat, but after seeing him play Marat at the Australian and Federer at the U.S. Open, it's evident that he just can't hang.

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2005, 10:47:06 AM »
Marat Safin beating Roger Federer on grass?   That is a laugher.   Also Johansson wont since Roger doesnt lose to people with only a huge serve, he is the best returner in the world against huge servers, Agassi might be the best overall returner, but against huge servers nobody is better than Roger.

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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2005, 10:53:23 AM »
IMHO the only one who really has a shot is J Johansson.  He's got a huge game for grass.  If he's on he could punk out Federer.

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2005, 10:59:52 AM »
The question of this thread was not whether Federer was a lock at Wimbledon, which he obviously is, but if anybody at any of the other slams is a lock.   Nobody has commented on that yet.    :uh:

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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2005, 02:18:49 PM »
The simple answer, Kittens, is no.  :)

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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2005, 10:14:10 AM »
What about Serena at Wimbledon?   Other than Sharapova does she have any threats there?   Venus cant be called one for sure until she shows more form than she is showing now.  Davenport is too slow, she will find it even harder to beat Serena on grass than hard courts with her lack of speed/athleticsm even with her booming shots.    I think Petrova could be very good on grass, I am not sure if she has the game to win a slam though.  Kuznetsova seems to have lost some confidence in her game, maybe it is the doping controversy.    Henin is good on grass, but even if she returned to top form, she would need to avoid Serena to have any chance.  Mauresmo has probably flirted with greatness the final time, as has Capriati who atleast reached it at some point.

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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2005, 10:30:15 AM »
I was referring to the men, but really, I'm loath to make predictions about who will definitely win. I'd say Serena is the closest thing to it on the women's side at the remaining slams but who knows if she will stay injury free. I like Sharapova's chances at Wimbledon as well. So there are favorites, but no locks IMO.

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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2005, 10:35:24 AM »
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I was referring to the men, but really, I'm loath to make predictions about who will definitely win. I'd say Serena is the closest thing to it on the women's side at the remaining slams but who knows if she will stay injury free. I like Sharapova's chances at Wimbledon as well. So there are favorites, but no locks IMO.


       Really are you saying you feel Serena is close to a lock at all of the remaining slams?   If that is how you feel I totally disagree.   She is far from a lock at the French or U.S opens IMO.   I will be highly surprised if she manages to complete the calander slam this year, she is not back to being that dominant yet.

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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2005, 12:20:44 PM »
I do not see her pulling out  calander slam, but I do see her holding more slam trophies this year.
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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2005, 12:56:59 PM »
LMAO!

People, hold your horses!

This is what I said:
   
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I'd say Serena is the closest thing to it


...that doesn't mean Serena is close to a lock. It means she's the closest thing to a lock that the women's field has. There is a difference. And here you two go talking about calendar slams. LOL.