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« on: February 13, 2005, 12:54:01 PM »
Johansson won his second title of the year, very nice win for him.  I like this guys game, not usually the style of game I like, but he is fun to watch...

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Johansson lifts Marseille trophy
   
Joachim Johansson collected his second title of the year by beating Ivan Ljubicic at the Open 13 in Marseille.

The 22-year-old triumphed 7-5 6-4 in a big-serving battle against the Croat, who lost his second final of 2005 after falling to Roger Federer in Doha.

Johansson, currently ranked 11th, could now break into the world's top 10.

He said: "I have improved dramatically over the last six months. My serve is more solid and consistent, and I'm also much more patient on court."

Johansson also won the Australian hardcourt championships in Adelaide in January.

The Swede, who now has three titles to his name after winning Memphis last year, has never lost an ATP final.
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 12:59:59 PM »
His serve and forehand are beasts but when he hits his backhand, I cringe everytime.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2005, 02:26:05 PM »
He reminds me of Safin with a Roddick like  serve. Wilander said he can beat anyone when he plays well. I agree. But similar to Safin that if he plays 7 straight matches in two weeks , like he can play, he will win slams. Can he?

He is scary good because of that serve.

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2005, 02:33:44 PM »
For me, he's just a Roddick clone. Exactly the same style of play - booming serve, powerful forehand. He'll do well at Slams until he comes up against good returners like Agassi, Hewitt, Federer - much like Roddick.

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2005, 02:57:37 PM »
i think he has alittle more than roddick but yes similar. He gives returners more trouble because his serve is less predictable. There is no pattern and every first serve and even a few second serves are huge. He played Andre at Oz and what a match. Not that it was great but serve after serve after serve. That was something. He gives good returners more trouble than Andy. By far.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2005, 03:27:21 PM »
He can't return though - if he can get a good return game going, he'll be very very hard to beat. But his loss to Agassi at the AO and Hewitt at the US shows that players with a good return game can beat him

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2005, 03:39:44 PM »
If he can pull a Roddick and get his ground game a little more stable he will be naaaaaaaasty!
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2005, 03:41:43 PM »
Agassi, Hewitt and Federer's returns are so great, yet their serves got broken many times and they were beaten easily by people like Taylor Dent, Melzer and Nadal.

Roddick kept joking around and physically weak and slow everytime he played them.

Agassi, Hewitt and Federer had some lucky slam wins, and you know it.
French Open 99
USO 01- bad line call in a crucial point helped Hewitt
Wimbledon 02 - joke draw
Wimbledon 04 - laughable
Australian Open 04 - Hewitt bagel time
 USO 04 - Hewitt the great returner did it again

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2005, 03:46:30 PM »
i think i would disagree with that federer doesnt get his serve broken too often he is able to place the ball very well when he serves. also those grand slam victories you hav spoke about are wrong.you hav to win 7 matches whatever the draw in a grand slam and you can only beat the players you are drawn against. federer's grand slam victories were pure class and not due to any other factor.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2005, 03:52:12 PM »
Who did Taylor Dent easily beat at a Slam? And if Andre's so easy to break, why wasn't Joachim able to break him at will at the AO? The likes of Andre, Hewitt etc might get broken  more than Roddick, Joachim but they are much more likely to break back and quite often do.

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2005, 09:12:33 PM »
If serves and forehands were all that mattered, he would be top 3 in the world.  His backhand and movement, though, are about 100 in the world.  

He is a lot like Roddick, but...

JJ has a smoother service motion.  His serve is tougher to read which makes up for it having less sheer pace than Roddick's serve, making it pretty much equally potent.  He's also taller, which makes his serve tougher to read and allows him to hit more places.

But Roddick's second serve is way better.  Roddick is also way way way way more athletic.  As far as mobility goes, Roddick is Vince Carter to JJ's Vlade Divac.  

Where I think JJ might have the biggest edge on Roddick is his forehand.  Roddick can probably hit his forehand harder than anybody, but he has no feel at all.  He can bludgeon the ball deep into the corners but he can't play sharp angles, take the pace off an hit really extreme angles, and his motion is relatively easy to read.  JJ can put his forehand into more places and his motion is much tougher to read.  

Actually, JJ has a lot of feel for a big guy.  He has really soft hands at the net, and his drop soft is pretty wicked.  If JJ is in fact unbeatable when he's playing well, as Mats claimed at the US Open, he will go down as the most lumbering number 1 perhaps ever.

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« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2005, 09:35:25 AM »
I don't see how Federer winning Wimby and USO 04 is "lucky". Maybe Gaudio winning FO and T. Johansson winning AUO were lucky.
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« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2005, 09:44:13 AM »
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If you wanna talk about a championship "lumbering" matchup, imagine Johanssen vs Karlovic.  They could probably play 5 sets in 90 minutes.  It would be serve....ace.....service winner....serve....return into the net.  7-6 6-7 7-6 6-7 7-6
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2005, 08:05:20 PM »
I watched Karlovic play in the qualies one year.  Me and my coach were just cracking up later when we talked about it.  I didn't know my coach was there btw.  

The effortless power he was generating off his serve was just laughable.  And the angles!!!  It was like somebody serving off a lifeguard seat/thingee.
 
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coach:  did you see that serve!?
me: yeah

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And his power off the forehand was so deceptive.  You see a 5'9" hitting with pace and you can TELL, because they're putting everything into it.  With these 6'4" and up guys, if you just watch them you can't tell how hard he's hitting.  They're so smooth, using leverage instead of just muscle and speed.  You have to watch the opponent for a good idea of how hard they're hitting and they rip winners all over the place.  Jan Vacek also falls into this category.  In the qualies at least.  In the main draw those guys just get to everything.