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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #500 on: October 17, 2008, 01:32:21 PM »
I'm really looking forward to the title battle this weekend- its going to be really exciting I feel. Add to that the fact Hamilton could be World Champoion this weekend if all goes well, but if things don't go as well then he could find himslef 2nd going into the final race. Alonso has really had his say and spiced it up as well by saying he hopes Massa wins the Championship and will try his best to help him! By that comment alone you can see the hate between Hamilton and Alonso.
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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #501 on: October 19, 2008, 01:57:00 AM »
Hamilton on pole & not long before the race starts,fingers crossed Lewis win this one ://

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #502 on: October 19, 2008, 02:07:54 AM »
And crucially Hamilton held onto first going into the first corner and for the first lap. He needed that and can now just drive naturally, as that McLaren is a fair bit faster than the Ferrari around this Shanghai circuit.
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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #503 on: October 19, 2008, 03:35:50 AM »
Hamilton lead from start ot finish and picks up the win and 10 absolutely huge points in the Championship :applause: Raikkonen was 2nd for much of the race but let Massa pass him late on so that Massa could pick up 2 extra points so it was Massa 2nd, Raikkonen 3rd and then Alonso 4th. For the Drivers Championship that means Hamilton now leads it by 7 points over Massa and going into the last GP in Brazil can finish 5th and it won't matter what Massa does as it will be Hamilton that becomes the youngest ever World Champion!!
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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #504 on: October 19, 2008, 05:43:25 AM »
Was Hamilton at any point within a metre of another car? If so, expect to hear in an hour or so that he's been penalised however many seconds Massa was behind him + 1, giving Massa the race, plus probably a 10-place grid penalty for the last race  :whistle:

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #505 on: October 19, 2008, 05:51:42 AM »
Was Hamilton at any point within a metre of another car? If so, expect to hear in an hour or so that he's been penalised however many seconds Massa was behind him + 1, giving Massa the race, plus probably a 10-place grid penalty for the last race  :whistle:

 :rofl_2: The only time was when the backrunners were in the way or during his time in the pits, so maybe they'll try to pick up on something there and send him down the finishes. Nah thankfully this was one race where there was no incident or controversy with Hamilton or anybody around him and its one race that is safely tucked away.
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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #506 on: November 01, 2008, 02:56:23 PM »
This worked out real bad for Lewis today in qualifying as Massa got pole and he's so quick around his home track he's for sure going to win this one unless he has problems with his car. Also the other Ferrari of Raikkonen is ahead of him, as is Trulli. But most worrying is that fool Alonso is right behind Lewis and they HATE each other!! I'm wondering how late on the brakes Alonso may be going into that first corner tomorrow when he sees Lewis car right in front of him.

Qualifying result for the Brazilian Grand Prix at Interlagos:

1. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari 1min 12.368secs
2. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota 1:12.737
3. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin Ferrari 1:12.825
4. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.830
5. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes 1:12.917
6. Fernando Alonso (Spn) Renault 1:12.967
7. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:13.082
8. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:13.297
9. Sebastien Bourdais (Fra) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:14.105
10. Timo Glock (Ger) Toyota 1:14.230
11. Nelson Piquet (Brz) Renault 1:12.137
12. Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull-Renault 1:12.289
13. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:12.300
14. David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Renault 1:12.717
15. Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Honda 1:13.139
16. Kazuki Nakajima (Jpn) Williams-Toyota 1:12.800
17. Jenson Button (GB) Honda 1:12.810
18. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams-Toyota 1:13.002
19. Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Force India-Ferrari 1:13.426
20. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Force India-Ferrari 1:13.508

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #507 on: November 02, 2008, 08:11:38 AM »
This is going to be a good race no matter what today, it'll be very exciting.

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #508 on: November 02, 2008, 09:39:33 AM »
Myself iv a horrid felling Lewis Hamilton wont be world champion after this race with Kimi Raikkonen in front of him.Lewis Hamilton will have 2 get past Kimi Raikkonen @ the start or i feel it might be over for him.Fernando Alonso will think nothing about taking Lewis Hamilton out of this race,same can be said for Kimi Raikkonen today.

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #509 on: November 02, 2008, 12:54:47 PM »
Massa wins, but Hamilton, on intermediates, catches Glock, on dry's, on the last lap for the 5th place he needed, as Glock lost 20 seconds of pace. Massa thought he'd won, until Hamilton took Glock on the penultimate corner, but a really well-deserved title for Hamilton :yahoo:

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #510 on: November 02, 2008, 12:59:04 PM »
Massa wins, but Hamilton, on intermediates, catches Glock, on dry's, on the last lap for the 5th place he needed, as Glock lost 20 seconds of pace. Massa thought he'd won, until Hamilton took Glock on the penultimate corner, but a really well-deserved title for Hamilton :yahoo:

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #511 on: November 02, 2008, 01:33:18 PM »
Huge congratulations to Lewis on becoming the youngest ever Formula 1 World Champion :applause: :applause: That rain came at a terrible time with 5 laps to go and then when it didn't rain hard enough it semed Glock would be staying in front of him on the dry tyres and Lewis would lose the Championship for a 2nd year in agonising circumstances. But the most dramatic finish I've ever seen to the World Championship as Lewis past Glock with 10 seconds of the race remaining to take the title by 1 point. Absolutely fantastic and a British Champions again :yahoo: :grind dance:
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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #512 on: November 02, 2008, 01:46:31 PM »
Lewis Hamilton became the youngest world champion in Formula One history by the skin of his teeth after a nail-biting Brazilian Grand Prix.

The English McLaren driver's title rival Felipe Massa won the race in his Ferrari but Hamilton grabbed the fifth place he needed at the last corner.

A late-race rain shower looked set to rob Hamilton of the title after a stop for wet tyres dropped him to sixth.

But he passed Toyota's Timo Glock as they entered the pit straight.

Renault's Fernando Alonso, the previous youngest champion, was second ahead of Massa's team-mate Kimi Raikkonen and Toro Rosso's Sebastian Vettel.

Hamilton's success buries the ghosts of last year, when after a remarkable debut season he let slip a massive lead in the final two races and Raikkonen sneaked in to win the title.

Ultimately, there were no similar mistakes this time around - but as he entered the final lap Hamilton was not going to win the title.  I thought do I have it? Do I have it? And when they told me I was ecstastic

Lewis Hamilton

He - like Massa - had stopped to change to wet tyres as the rain fell in the closing laps.

But while the Brazilian held on to his lead, Hamilton dropped to fifth place behind Glock - who stayed on dry tyres.

Hamilton then lost fifth place - which was the minimum he needed if the Brazilian won - when he was passed at the start of the penultimate lap by Vettel.

Hamilton tried hard to pass the German, but he could not get close enough to him and he would have thought he had lost the title until he came to the last two corners of the lap.

There, Glock - who had started the final lap 18 seconds ahead of Hamilton - was struggling badly on the now-slick track and the McLaren slipped passed the Toyota as it accelerated up the hill towards the finish line.

"It's pretty impossible to put into words," Hamilton said.

"I thought do I have it? Do I have it? And when they told me I was ecstastic."  We need to be proud of our race and our championship but for sure I'm very emotional

Felipe Massa

It was heartbreaking for Massa, whose family were celebrating what they thought was his success for a few seconds until they realised what had happened.

"The race was just perfect," said Massa, who won one race more than Hamilton this year.

"We did everything fantastically in such difficult weather, the rain coming at the end.

"I'm so proud about the race and the team. I'm so proud about the people around about the people who support me. 
Massa could not hold back the tears as he realised he had lost out at the death

"It was an emotional day for me. You get here and you've almost done everything perfect but we saw Lewis passing Glock again and that mixed emotion.

"Unfortunately we missed [out] by one point but that's racing.

"We need to be proud of our race and our championship. It's one more day of our life when I will learn a lot but for sure I'm very emotional."

The thrilling climax was a stark contrast to the rest of the race, which Hamilton had approached with the caution he felt was required to avoid mistakes.

The 23-year-old - watched from the sidelines by his girlfriend Nicole Scherzinger, singer with the Pussycat Dolls - went into the race knowing he only had to finish fifth even if Massa won his home event.

That luxury showed in the way in which he and his McLaren team approached the Grand Prix.

A shower of rain five minutes before the scheduled start introduced a random element that was exactly what Hamilton did not need. 
Hamilton's girlfriend, the pop singer Nicole Scherzinger, watched him win 

It caused a five-minute delay and shaped the entire race.

The heavy shower doused the track in the area of the pits and some of the corners, but other areas remained dry.

And with the sun shining as the race started, it was only a matter of time before drivers started to pit for dry tyres.

Hamilton and McLaren played it safe, leaving it as late as they could before coming in to change tyres.

Hamilton stopped a lap later than Massa on lap 11 - and two laps after Vettel and Alonso.

McLaren's decision was the right one in that it limited their risk, but it was not the best in terms of absolute pace.

Vettel and Alonso's early stops vaulted them up into second and third places behind Massa.

Hamilton, by contrast, was demoted from fourth to sixth behind Massa, Vettel, Alonso, Raikkonen and the Force India of Giancarlo Fisichella, who had changed to dry tyres as early as lap three. 

McLaren were confident the required result was always within their grasp.

But that was reckoning without the unfolding drama ahead.

Hamilton did not pass Fisichella until lap 18, out-braking him in a brave move at the first corner on the still-slippery track.

That put Hamilton into the fifth place he needed, and he was promoted to fourth by the three-stop strategy chosen by Toro Rosso for Vettel in contrast to the two stops of the other leading teams. 
Coulthard's final race ended unhappily with a first-lap crash

Hamilton was only a couple of seconds ahead of Vettel by the time the Toro Rosso had made its stop and he had to up his pace to hold his rival off.

And a late shower increased the anxiety for Hamilton as he sought to close out the championship.

Hamilton stopped for wet tyres on lap 66 - a decision that could have cost him the title.

It dropped him to fifth place behind Glock, with Vettel right behind him.

Vettel pushed Hamilton hard and passed him with two laps to go, leading to the nail-biting finish.



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Brazilian Grand Prix result:

1. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari one hour 34 minutes 11.435 seconds
2. Fernando Alonso (Spa) Renault 13.298 seconds behind
3. Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari +16.235
4. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso-Ferrari +38.011
5. Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes +38.907
6. Timo Glock (Ger) Toyota +44.368
7. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes +55.074
8. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota +1:08.463
9. Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull-Renault +1:19.666
10. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber one lap behind
11. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber one lap
12. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams-Toyota one lap
13. Jenson Button (GB) Honda one lap
14. Sebastien Bourdais (Fra) Toro Rosso-Ferrari one lap
15. Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Honda one lap
16. Adrian Sutil (Ger) Force India-Ferrari two laps
17. Kazuki Nakajima (Jpn) Williams-Toyota two laps
18. Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Force India-Ferrari two laps
R Nelson Piquet (Brz) Renault 0 laps completed
R David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Renault 0 laps

Key: R = retired

Fastest Lap: Massa 1:13.736 on lap 36

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Re: Formula 1 Racing
« Reply #513 on: November 02, 2008, 04:02:42 PM »
A lot of Hamilton's detractors have accused Glock of deliberately letting Hamilton through, saying he went from 1:15 to 1:44 in the space of one lap and once let somebody through in another race series, ridiculous. His teammate, Trulli, on the same tyres, had the same final lap time, showing no lack of effort from Glock, Raikkonen let Massa through for 2nd in China showing the hypocrisy of the argument and if they think that means Massa deserved the title, look at the dozen or so points the stewards have gifted him over Hamilton for unknown reasons. Anyway, screw the idiots, Lewis won!!! :yahoo:

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« Reply #514 on: November 03, 2008, 10:48:21 AM »
A lot of Hamilton's detractors have accused Glock of deliberately letting Hamilton through, saying he went from 1:15 to 1:44 in the space of one lap and once let somebody through in another race series, ridiculous. His teammate, Trulli, on the same tyres, had the same final lap time, showing no lack of effort from Glock, Raikkonen let Massa through for 2nd in China showing the hypocrisy of the argument and if they think that means Massa deserved the title, look at the dozen or so points the stewards have gifted him over Hamilton for unknown reasons. Anyway, screw the idiots, Lewis won!!! :yahoo:

Believe the reasons were known, just disputed. Anyway, as I said before, that was a terrific race that had absolutely everything in it, and it was really exciting. Looks like the weather helped Hamilton to his title here, but congratulations to him anyway. Massa won more races than Lewis, so I wouldn't say Lewis deserved the title for that, but definitely credit to him for regaining himself after last years choke and this years extremely close-to choke. Glock helped him out big time here.

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« Reply #515 on: November 03, 2008, 10:50:51 AM »
And something that hasn't been mentioned here at all is poor David Coulthard. For his last race of his career, he was given a new paint-job for his Red Bull and then sadly at the very first corner of the race he was put in a Williams sandwich and spun out for a terrible end to his F1 career. A big round of applause to him for an amazing career and managing to give Schumacher some brilliant challenges.

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« Reply #516 on: November 03, 2008, 10:55:49 AM »
A lot of Hamilton's detractors have accused Glock of deliberately letting Hamilton through, saying he went from 1:15 to 1:44 in the space of one lap and once let somebody through in another race series, ridiculous. His teammate, Trulli, on the same tyres, had the same final lap time, showing no lack of effort from Glock, Raikkonen let Massa through for 2nd in China showing the hypocrisy of the argument and if they think that means Massa deserved the title, look at the dozen or so points the stewards have gifted him over Hamilton for unknown reasons. Anyway, screw the idiots, Lewis won!!! :yahoo:

Believe the reasons were known, just disputed. Anyway, as I said before, that was a terrific race that had absolutely everything in it, and it was really exciting. Looks like the weather helped Hamilton to his title here, but congratulations to him anyway. Massa won more races than Lewis, so I wouldn't say Lewis deserved the title for that, but definitely credit to him for regaining himself after last years choke and this years extremely close-to choke. Glock helped him out big time here.

Well, you say Massa won more races, but did he really win Spa. No, he was given it on a plate by stewards, so morally, Hamilton won more  :)~

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« Reply #517 on: November 03, 2008, 10:57:28 AM »
A lot of Hamilton's detractors have accused Glock of deliberately letting Hamilton through, saying he went from 1:15 to 1:44 in the space of one lap and once let somebody through in another race series, ridiculous. His teammate, Trulli, on the same tyres, had the same final lap time, showing no lack of effort from Glock, Raikkonen let Massa through for 2nd in China showing the hypocrisy of the argument and if they think that means Massa deserved the title, look at the dozen or so points the stewards have gifted him over Hamilton for unknown reasons. Anyway, screw the idiots, Lewis won!!! :yahoo:

Believe the reasons were known, just disputed. Anyway, as I said before, that was a terrific race that had absolutely everything in it, and it was really exciting. Looks like the weather helped Hamilton to his title here, but congratulations to him anyway. Massa won more races than Lewis, so I wouldn't say Lewis deserved the title for that, but definitely credit to him for regaining himself after last years choke and this years extremely close-to choke. Glock helped him out big time here.

Well, you say Massa won more races, but did he really win Spa. No, he was given it on a plate by stewards, so morally, Hamilton won more  :)~

Not quite kicker!!! Even without that win the win here in Brazil would've got him more wins :)~

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« Reply #518 on: November 03, 2008, 11:21:44 AM »
A lot of Hamilton's detractors have accused Glock of deliberately letting Hamilton through, saying he went from 1:15 to 1:44 in the space of one lap and once let somebody through in another race series, ridiculous. His teammate, Trulli, on the same tyres, had the same final lap time, showing no lack of effort from Glock, Raikkonen let Massa through for 2nd in China showing the hypocrisy of the argument and if they think that means Massa deserved the title, look at the dozen or so points the stewards have gifted him over Hamilton for unknown reasons. Anyway, screw the idiots, Lewis won!!! :yahoo:

Believe the reasons were known, just disputed. Anyway, as I said before, that was a terrific race that had absolutely everything in it, and it was really exciting. Looks like the weather helped Hamilton to his title here, but congratulations to him anyway. Massa won more races than Lewis, so I wouldn't say Lewis deserved the title for that, but definitely credit to him for regaining himself after last years choke and this years extremely close-to choke. Glock helped him out big time here.

Well, you say Massa won more races, but did he really win Spa. No, he was given it on a plate by stewards, so morally, Hamilton won more  :)~

Not quite kicker!!! Even without that win the win here in Brazil would've got him more wins :)~

The FIA say Massa won 6, Hamilton 5, so morally Hamilton won 6, Massa won 5.
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« Reply #519 on: November 03, 2008, 11:23:42 AM »
A lot of Hamilton's detractors have accused Glock of deliberately letting Hamilton through, saying he went from 1:15 to 1:44 in the space of one lap and once let somebody through in another race series, ridiculous. His teammate, Trulli, on the same tyres, had the same final lap time, showing no lack of effort from Glock, Raikkonen let Massa through for 2nd in China showing the hypocrisy of the argument and if they think that means Massa deserved the title, look at the dozen or so points the stewards have gifted him over Hamilton for unknown reasons. Anyway, screw the idiots, Lewis won!!! :yahoo:

Believe the reasons were known, just disputed. Anyway, as I said before, that was a terrific race that had absolutely everything in it, and it was really exciting. Looks like the weather helped Hamilton to his title here, but congratulations to him anyway. Massa won more races than Lewis, so I wouldn't say Lewis deserved the title for that, but definitely credit to him for regaining himself after last years choke and this years extremely close-to choke. Glock helped him out big time here.

Glock helped him out?  :rofl_2: He was on dry tyres on a wet track, he had no chance (same lap time as the only other driver on the same tyres, Trulli). Helped him out implies he deliberately slowed down, no, he just took a gamble which didn't pay off. If he had changed to wet tyres like everyone else, he'd have been behind Hamilton from the pit-stop anyway.