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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2007, 06:44:52 PM »
I can't believe I forgot him, but Guga Kuerten! Man when I was like 10 or 11, I lived to watch the French Open to see him playing there. I loved how sunny and laid-back and mellow he was.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2007, 06:57:59 PM »
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I can't believe I forgot him, but Guga Kuerten! Man when I was like 10 or 11, I lived to watch the French Open to see him playing there. I loved how sunny and laid-back and mellow he was.


Guga fans. Man, that is one long, cruel roller coaster ride. But his star did shine brightly, and other than Borg, no one else has more than 2 RG titles.  ;)
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2007, 07:12:16 PM »
Tell me about it, but besides Safin (another roller coaster ride in himself!), I would most want to hang out with Kuerten if I had the chance, language barrier not withstanding.
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2007, 05:05:29 PM »
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I can't believe I forgot him, but Guga Kuerten! Man when I was like 10 or 11, I lived to watch the French Open to see him playing there. I loved how sunny and laid-back and mellow he was.


Guga fans. Man, that is one long, cruel roller coaster ride. But his star did shine brightly, and other than Borg, no one else has more than 2 RG titles.  ;)

Have we forgotten Nadal so quickly?

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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2007, 05:06:42 PM »
Sergi Bruguera also won in '93 & '94. Also, Jim Courier won it in '91 & '92 (had to research that one.  ;) ).

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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2007, 05:10:01 PM »
Ivan Lendl won it in '84, '86 & '87, and Mats Wilander won it in '82, '85 and '88.
(more research).
Boy are my eyes tired. :sleeping:

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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2007, 06:17:31 PM »
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Ivan Lendl won it in '84, '86 & '87, and Mats Wilander won it in '82, '85 and '88.
(more research).
Boy are my eyes tired. :sleeping:


lol

Took you all day to finally get it right. No wonder you need a nap. Just an observation: reading would have cut your work considerably.   ;;)

So... I stand corrected. Borg(6), Guga(3), Wilander(3) and Lendl(3) have won RG more than 2 times.

The operative words being "more than."

(Actually, I'm glad you brought it to my attention, because I've been wrong about that for a long time.)  :Blush:
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2007, 06:39:33 PM »
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Ivan Lendl won it in '84, '86 & '87, and Mats Wilander won it in '82, '85 and '88.
(more research).
Boy are my eyes tired. :sleeping:


Okay, okay, thanks. You finally got it right, now take your nap. Reading would have cut your work considerably.   ;;)

So... I stand corrected. Borg(6), Guga(3), Wilander(3) and Lendl(3) have won RG more than 2 times.

The operative words being "more than."


I wasn't even aware Kuerten won it three times. (more research  :Blush: ).
I would add one word to your statement. 'no one has won more than 3 since Borg'. Because Roswald won it 8 times, Laver 3, and a trio of Frenchmen traded titles throughout the '30s (Crochet, Lacoste and Borotra).
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2007, 06:45:09 PM »
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Ivan Lendl won it in '84, '86 & '87, and Mats Wilander won it in '82, '85 and '88.
(more research).
Boy are my eyes tired. :sleeping:


Okay, okay, thanks. You finally got it right, now take your nap. Reading would have cut your work considerably.   ;;)

So... I stand corrected. Borg(6), Guga(3), Wilander(3) and Lendl(3) have won RG more than 2 times.

The operative words being "more than."


I wasn't even aware Kuerten won it three times. (more research  :Blush: ).
I would add one word to your statement. 'no one has won more than 3 since Borg'. Because Roswald won it 8 times, Laver 3, and a trio of Frenchmen traded titles throughout the '30s (Crochet, Lacoste and Borotra).
Back to sleep......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Pu-leaze, we don't count the pre-Open Era.  ;-()

I took if for granted that that was understood, so I intentionally omitted "in the Open Era." It seems I forgot about you, as well as Wilander and Lendl.  :-o
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2007, 07:46:38 PM »
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Ivan Lendl won it in '84, '86 & '87, and Mats Wilander won it in '82, '85 and '88.
(more research).
Boy are my eyes tired. :sleeping:


Okay, okay, thanks. You finally got it right, now take your nap. Reading would have cut your work considerably.   ;;)

So... I stand corrected. Borg(6), Guga(3), Wilander(3) and Lendl(3) have won RG more than 2 times.

The operative words being "more than."


I wasn't even aware Kuerten won it three times. (more research  :Blush: ).
I would add one word to your statement. 'no one has won more than 3 since Borg'. Because Roswald won it 8 times, Laver 3, and a trio of Frenchmen traded titles throughout the '30s (Crochet, Lacoste and Borotra).
Back to sleep......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Pu-leaze, we don't count the pre-Open Era.  ;-()

I took if for granted that that was understood, so I intentionally omitted "in the Open Era." It seems I forgot about you, as well as Wilander and Lendl.  :-o

Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.

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« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2007, 12:17:38 PM »
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Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.


Good grief. You should have tapped out after you came up with Lendl and Wilander. That's your contribute to this thread.

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« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2007, 03:24:09 PM »
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Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.


Good grief. You should have tapped out after you came up with Lendl and Wilander. That's your contribute to this thread.

 :;:-|


Personally, I don't think of the Open Era until Ashe won the US Open in 1968?... I never followed tennis up until then.  I actually thought it was just a rich-man's sport. :))  Uhm... sort of like golf before Tiger! :))

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« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2007, 04:10:17 PM »
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Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.


Good grief. You should have tapped out after you came up with Lendl and Wilander. That's your contribute to this thread.

 :;:-|


Personally, I don't think of the Open Era until Ashe won the US Open in 1968?... I never followed tennis up until then.  I actually thought it was just a rich-man's sport. :))  Uhm... sort of like golf before Tiger! :))


You're close - the start of the Open Era is the 68 French Open, because it was the first GS to allow pros to play.

Also interesting with respect to Rosewall's big collection of French Titles, 6 of those were the "French Pro", not the "French Open" - and 4 of them were contested on "indoor wood" (anyone know how this surface played?), in which Rosewall beat Laver in 4 consecutive finals.
Good luck on the court is nice to have, but it's usually extraneous when playing against Baker.

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« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2007, 04:15:34 PM »
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Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.


Good grief. You should have tapped out after you came up with Lendl and Wilander. That's your contribute to this thread.

 :;:-|


Personally, I don't think of the Open Era until Ashe won the US Open in 1968?... I never followed tennis up until then.  I actually thought it was just a rich-man's sport. :))  Uhm... sort of like golf before Tiger! :))


You're close - the start of the Open Era is the 68 French Open, because it was the first GS to allow pros to play.

Also interesting with respect to Rosewall's big collection of French Titles, 6 of those were the "French Pro", not the "French Open" - and 4 of them were contested on "indoor wood" (anyone know how this surface played?), in which Rosewall beat Laver in 4 consecutive finals.



I am going to go with ludicrously fast unless they decorated it up with some grit!

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2007, 04:17:23 PM »
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Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.


Good grief. You should have tapped out after you came up with Lendl and Wilander. That's your contribute to this thread.

 :;:-|


Personally, I don't think of the Open Era until Ashe won the US Open in 1968?... I never followed tennis up until then.  I actually thought it was just a rich-man's sport. :))  Uhm... sort of like golf before Tiger! :))


You're close - the start of the Open Era is the 68 French Open, because it was the first GS to allow pros to play.

Also interesting with respect to Rosewall's big collection of French Titles, 6 of those were the "French Pro", not the "French Open" - and 4 of them were contested on "indoor wood" (anyone know how this surface played?), in which Rosewall beat Laver in 4 consecutive finals.



I am going to go with ludicrously fast unless they decorated it up with some grit!

Having tried to hit on a basketball gym floor a few times I would have to agree with this. Fast and low. But I can't say how an 'indoor wood' tennis court would compare to a basketball court.

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« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2007, 04:19:44 PM »
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Hate to keep bludgeoning you with facts, but both Laver and Rosewald are 'Open Era' players, though each won the French once in the 'Open Era'. The ushered in the 'Open Era'.
For my part tennis is tennis, and accoplishments in the 20's and 30's count just as much as accomplishments today, or ten years from now.


Good grief. You should have tapped out after you came up with Lendl and Wilander. That's your contribute to this thread.

 :;:-|


Personally, I don't think of the Open Era until Ashe won the US Open in 1968?... I never followed tennis up until then.  I actually thought it was just a rich-man's sport. :))  Uhm... sort of like golf before Tiger! :))


You're close - the start of the Open Era is the 68 French Open, because it was the first GS to allow pros to play.

Also interesting with respect to Rosewall's big collection of French Titles, 6 of those were the "French Pro", not the "French Open" - and 4 of them were contested on "indoor wood" (anyone know how this surface played?), in which Rosewall beat Laver in 4 consecutive finals.



I am going to go with ludicrously fast unless they decorated it up with some grit!

Having tried to hit on a basketball gym floor a few times I would have to agree with this. Fast and low. But I can't say how an 'indoor wood' tennis court would compare to a basketball court.



They would of had to grit the court up some to cause more friction with the ball otherwise we are talking as fast or faster than grass!

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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2008, 08:20:41 PM »
Here it is, conchita, for your amusement.   :)
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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2008, 09:45:34 PM »
Just so all of you bandwagoners know, I am the number one Gasquet fan on this board!! :)>>>> :)>>>> :)>>>> No one can dethrone me. ;-() But I'm sure you guys can fight over who gets to be number 2, number 3... :)) :))



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« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2008, 10:08:36 PM »
Just so all of you bandwagoners know, I am the number one Gasquet fan on this board!! :)>>>> :)>>>> :)>>>> No one can dethrone me. ;-() But I'm sure you guys can fight over who gets to be number 2, number 3... :)) :))

How can you be the #1 Gasquet fan if he isn't even your #1 guy?  :whistle:

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« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2008, 10:20:12 PM »
Just so all of you bandwagoners know, I am the number one Gasquet fan on this board!! :)>>>> :)>>>> :)>>>> No one can dethrone me. ;-() But I'm sure you guys can fight over who gets to be number 2, number 3... :)) :))

How can you be the #1 Gasquet fan if he isn't even your #1 guy?  :whistle:
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