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Views on shot spot's implementation

Like it just as it is with limited challenges per set
14 (100%)
Like shot spot, but let them challenge as many times as they want
0 (0%)
Don't like it. Get rid of it. It's a gimmick anyway.
0 (0%)

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Voting closed: June 27, 2007, 12:34:25 AM

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« on: June 27, 2007, 12:34:25 AM »
Something else mentioned this in a post and thought might be a good poll type question. Maybe it's been polled before. ||-|


Edit: I've edited the title to include HawkEye. Let's assume that I'm talking about any line calling auditing system. ShotSpot, HawkEye, Mac-Cam, whatever they want to call it.

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 12:36:01 AM »
I think it's fine just as it is, so Mary Carrillo can put a sock in it!  :-o

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 08:43:56 AM »
I voted for the top one since I like it but it has to be limited otherwise the players would use it to break up the flow of matches.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 11:27:00 AM »
I vote for keep at as it is, as otherwise, we'll just have players challenging almost every call that may've been near the net, and it'll waste time. Also dmast, I believe it is called "Hawk-Eye" now.

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 11:30:49 AM »
I voted for the top one.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 01:03:48 AM »
I've never heard of 'shot-spot', but it sounds like Hawk-Eye?

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 01:23:09 AM »
I have voted for the top choice too.

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 05:54:57 PM »
If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 06:31:20 PM »
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I wish they had a shot spot to help us determine if Alison's opinions are accurate or bogus.  I have a feeling it would be calling "out!" most of the time....


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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2007, 12:58:15 AM »
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I'm pretty sure they do a lot of testing: I heard it's accurate to within 2mm 99.8% of the time.

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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2007, 06:05:34 PM »
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I'm pretty sure they do a lot of testing: I heard it's accurate to within 2mm 99.8% of the time.


Fair enough, but it would have been interesting if they had used it at FO   :)
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2007, 03:49:36 AM »
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I'm pretty sure they do a lot of testing: I heard it's accurate to within 2mm 99.8% of the time.


Fair enough, but it would have been interesting if they had used it at FO   :)


I don't think there's any need for the players to use it, because it would juste waste time, but the broadcasters can and occasionally do use hawkeye in analysis: they could use it for the viewers at home to check calls.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2007, 08:36:15 AM »
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I'm pretty sure they do a lot of testing: I heard it's accurate to within 2mm 99.8% of the time.


Fair enough, but it would have been interesting if they had used it at FO   :)


I don't think there's any need for the players to use it, because it would juste waste time, but the broadcasters can and occasionally do use hawkeye in analysis: they could use it for the viewers at home to check calls.


Alison's comment was about comparing HawkEye to the clay court marks. But your kind of right, as we do get to see that comparison and it hasn't told us much. Frequently it's all about which mark the player chooses and which one the umpire chooses. In that case HawkEye would probably be more accurate because it's going to be looking at the correct point on the court.

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2007, 09:01:57 AM »
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Quote from: "kickserve"
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I'm pretty sure they do a lot of testing: I heard it's accurate to within 2mm 99.8% of the time.


Fair enough, but it would have been interesting if they had used it at FO   :)


I don't think there's any need for the players to use it, because it would juste waste time, but the broadcasters can and occasionally do use hawkeye in analysis: they could use it for the viewers at home to check calls.


Alison's comment was about comparing HawkEye to the clay court marks. But your kind of right, as we do get to see that comparison and it hasn't told us much. Frequently it's all about which mark the player chooses and which one the umpire chooses. In that case HawkEye would probably be more accurate because it's going to be looking at the correct point on the court.


It's prety rarely an issue on picking the right mark: most tournaments sweep the court between sets so there aren't quite so many to choose from. Whenever I've played on clay, I've never had a problem working out which mark is the right one.

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2007, 09:06:22 AM »
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Alison's comment was about comparing HawkEye to the clay court marks. But your kind of right, as we do get to see that comparison and it hasn't told us much. Frequently it's all about which mark the player chooses and which one the umpire chooses. In that case HawkEye would probably be more accurate because it's going to be looking at the correct point on the court.


It's prety rarely an issue on picking the right mark: most tournaments sweep the court between sets so there aren't quite so many to choose from. Whenever I've played on clay, I've never had a problem working out which mark is the right one.


It's not that rare. I've seen a number of arguments between players and umpires/linespeople over marks. It's not a frequent occurance, but it's not rare either.

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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2007, 06:16:07 PM »
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If it's Hawk-eye we are talking about they should use it on Clay and see how accurate it really is IMO  :)


I wish they had a shot spot to help us determine if Alison's opinions are accurate or bogus.  I have a feeling it would be calling "out!" most of the time....


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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2007, 11:02:42 AM »
A rule, if a player wipes the mark away and makes an incorrect call before it, the point is his opponent's as soon as his shoe touckes the mark.

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2007, 06:34:11 PM »
Interesting Link

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2051307.ece

And it involves Federer......... :uh:

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« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2007, 08:25:12 AM »
Quote from: "Alison2006"
Interesting Link

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/tennis/article2051307.ece

And it involves Federer......... :uh:

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Yeah, interesting indeed!  I would love to see some of those super-slow-motion shots of how balls bounce and on the different surfaces.   I must note the dudes (Hawkins) fallacy though.  He says of the call in question that it was in by 1mm, then says that Hawk-eye is accurate to within 3mm, then he says the ball was definitely in..........................definitely Mr Hawkins???   :;:-|  :;:-|