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Offline gelis

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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2005, 03:49:31 PM »
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For realz, Justine walks around like she's packing some serious heat in her underwear.


She does, at that, LOL  :))

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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2005, 04:27:29 PM »
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hmmm, do not know who that is, now i have to go look her up.  :)

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Edit - - - I just went and looked her up.  Ummm, good call...



LOL. Nice pic Scott.
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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2005, 04:41:13 PM »
Oh crap that is funny.  What made me laugh even harder is when I realzied you were not joking about the sponsors.
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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2005, 11:31:40 PM »
I always thought Lindsay was kind of butch-ish.

From "Hyperdictionary:"

   1. [n]  offensive terms for a lesbian who is noticeably masculine
   2. [adj]  pejorative synonym for lesbian
   3. [adj]  used of men; markedly masculine in appearance or manner
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2005, 09:18:44 AM »
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I'm inclined to think your post is well intended, but think about it a second.  What you're saying is basically the same thing that homophobes say in condemning gay people.


I think the reason that you misunderstand my post is because you are conflating the terminology.  As I noted, the sex terms " male" and "female" are biological categories; yes, there are innate differences aside from the anatomical ones.  But the gender terms "masculinity" and "femininity" are widely considered to be social constructs, i.e., artificial, as evidenced by their changing values and traits over time and place.  Where ideology comes in--what I was objecting to in this thread--is when people play identity politics and, for example, ridicule women who do not fit the  currently valued "feminine" image.  And that ridicule usually happens because a lot of men, and even many women,  get uncomfortable when the gender divisions start to blur; they would like men and women to be "opposites."  Repressive societies reinforce that division.

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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2005, 10:07:42 PM »
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I'm inclined to think your post is well intended, but think about it a second.  What you're saying is basically the same thing that homophobes say in condemning gay people.


I think the reason that you misunderstand my post is because you are conflating the terminology.  As I noted, the sex terms " male" and "female" are biological categories; yes, there are innate differences aside from the anatomical ones.  But the gender terms "masculinity" and "femininity" are widely considered to be social constructs, i.e., artificial, as evidenced by their changing values and traits over time and place.
No, I attended university, too.  I know the difference, and I stand by my point.  The term "gender" itself is, in fact, a social construct.  And as for a blanket statement like "the gender terms "masculinity" and "femininity" are widely considered to be social constructs, i.e., artificial"... That I don't agree with.  
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Where ideology comes in--what I was objecting to in this thread--is when people play identity politics and, for example, ridicule women who do not fit the  currently valued "feminine" image.  And that ridicule usually happens because a lot of men, and even many women,  get uncomfortable when the gender divisions start to blur; they would like men and women to be "opposites."  Repressive societies reinforce that division.
The "division" is there for all to see.  I thnk repressive societies are the kind that insist people not be able to openly acknowledge the obvious in order to perpetuate a worldview based on an ultimately arbitrary moral code.  I think gender is a useful term, but in the end mostly a political one.

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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2005, 02:38:29 PM »
I think your taking the issue a little too seriously. I understand what your saying and sort-of agree with it, but I think the whole thing was pretty much a joke.

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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2005, 07:14:57 PM »
It was a joke...

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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2005, 10:40:16 PM »
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But the gender terms "masculinity" and "femininity" are widely considered to be social constructs, i.e., artificial, as evidenced by their changing values and traits over time and place.  Where ideology comes in--what I was objecting to in this thread--is when people play identity politics and, for example, ridicule women who do not fit the  currently valued "feminine" image.  And that ridicule usually happens because a lot of men, and even many women,  get uncomfortable when the gender divisions start to blur; they would like men and women to be "opposites."  Repressive societies reinforce that division.


Well said, Dagnat.

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« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2005, 01:03:11 PM »
Francesca Schavione and Alicia Molik not just looks their also pretty masculine in behavior.
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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2005, 11:32:09 AM »
Mauresmo looks like anthony keitis(sp?) of the red hot chili peppers...

...under the bridge pops into my head everytime i see her.

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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2005, 11:48:57 AM »
Serena isn't only butch, she's scary.  If I saw her coming down a dark ally towards me I'd crap my pants.  Plus the fact that she atually thinks she is hot and has design talent adds to the scary mystique...My gawd, I've never seen an uglier, disgendered person in my life...Ewww, she bent over in front of a camera in last years Wimbledon and I almost threw up!  This is NOT something I want to see.

Maruesmo is a very close second in the butch category, but not nearly as scary.

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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2005, 11:58:44 AM »
Tell us how you really feel, T rat.  

I have to admit the design skills part was funny.

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2005, 12:00:53 PM »
Oh, I'm sorry if I went too far, but the memory of her at Wimbledon just got me all queasy and I feel like hiding under my desk in case she reads this forum... :|

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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2005, 12:04:37 PM »
See, I got so discombobled I forgot to enter my name on the last post...OK on to better tennis thoughts, will Andy ever beat Roger???  There, that's better...Neither of them are too feminine are they?

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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2005, 01:00:15 PM »
LOL at the above posts, I got a good kick out of that.

I think Andy will get a few wins over Roger, but nowhere near the majority of the matches they play.

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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2005, 02:18:09 PM »
I wouldnt be surprised if Andy never beat Roger again.   Roger is just too proud to lose to him, and Andy will start losing before playing Roger to avoid him I bet.   He has Roger on the brain I think, hope, and believe.  

        Mauresmo is the butchest female.   She is extremely masculine, rugged, and unfeminine looking.    Totally unappealing.

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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2005, 04:23:04 PM »
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       Mauresmo is the butchest female.   She is extremely masculine, rugged, and unfeminine looking.    Totally unappealing.


Have you ever seen her in person? She has a bit of strong jaws probably but isn't bad looking at all and she is a very sweet girl.
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« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2005, 04:31:11 PM »
I've seen Momo dressed up and like Sabitini she softens a lot off of the court.  Perhaps she just doesn't care about on court looks as much as her performance and that should actually be applauded.

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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2005, 12:28:41 PM »
T rat

I actually think Serena has a very pretty face.  Venus on theother hand.....
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