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Best serve in mens game today?

Federer
3 (17.6%)
Roddick
5 (29.4%)
Karlovic
7 (41.2%)
Ljubicic
1 (5.9%)
Joachim Johansson
0 (0%)
Safin
0 (0%)
Guccione
1 (5.9%)
other(please specify)
0 (0%)

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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2007, 10:07:56 AM »
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No need to go and call us names.  Just admit you are the weaker "race" and move on.  Freebird will surely agree.   :uh:


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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2007, 10:14:46 AM »
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Karlovic does have one sick serve, but I've gotta go with Dallas on this one.

Dr. Ivo just doesn't seem to be as consistently good as Roger.  

I would've voted for DMast after last weekend but his name wasn't on the list! :))
He had 2 aces were I anticipated the direction, adjusted position prior to the serve, moved to the ball and still missed it!!!
Very nice DM! :worthy:


I've been staying away from all this who has the best this or that discussion, so I just noticed my addition here. I'd have to say that I appreciate the compliment. But think my serve is nowhere near it's potential. It's decent, but I'd say Scott hits his serve bigger than I do, at his diminutive stature.
I'd hate to see what a Karlovic or even Federer, would have in comparison. It's just no contest.

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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2007, 10:19:06 AM »
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Karlovic does have one sick serve, but I've gotta go with Dallas on this one.

Dr. Ivo just doesn't seem to be as consistently good as Roger.  

I would've voted for DMast after last weekend but his name wasn't on the list! :))
He had 2 aces were I anticipated the direction, adjusted position prior to the serve, moved to the ball and still missed it!!!
Very nice DM! :worthy:


I've been staying away from all this who has the best this or that discussion, so I just noticed my addition here. I'd have to say that I appreciate the compliment. But think my serve is nowhere near it's potential. It's decent, but I'd say Scott hits his serve bigger than I do, at his diminutive stature.
I'd hate to see what a Karlovic or even Federer, would have in comparison. It's just no contest.


And, if you think Scott's serve is big then you should see Jster's!  Scott's is 4.5 and Jster's serve is 4.5 to about 6.0, depending on how the body is feeling.

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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2007, 10:21:10 AM »
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Quote from: "monstertruck"
Karlovic does have one sick serve, but I've gotta go with Dallas on this one.

Dr. Ivo just doesn't seem to be as consistently good as Roger.  

I would've voted for DMast after last weekend but his name wasn't on the list! :))
He had 2 aces were I anticipated the direction, adjusted position prior to the serve, moved to the ball and still missed it!!!
Very nice DM! :worthy:


I've been staying away from all this who has the best this or that discussion, so I just noticed my addition here. I'd have to say that I appreciate the compliment. But think my serve is nowhere near it's potential. It's decent, but I'd say Scott hits his serve bigger than I do, at his diminutive stature.
I'd hate to see what a Karlovic or even Federer, would have in comparison. It's just no contest.


And, if you think Scott's serve is big then you should see Jster's!  Scott's is 4.5 and Jster's serve is 4.5 to about 6.0, depending on how the body is feeling.


When I was playing college tennis I got hit in the arm by one of the guy's serves, and it literally parted my skin. Left me with a welt and a some bleeding. Nothing nasty, just impressive.

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2007, 10:25:11 AM »
Quote from: "dmastous"
Quote from: "OSU Buckeye"
Quote from: "dmastous"
Quote from: "monstertruck"
Karlovic does have one sick serve, but I've gotta go with Dallas on this one.

Dr. Ivo just doesn't seem to be as consistently good as Roger.  

I would've voted for DMast after last weekend but his name wasn't on the list! :))
He had 2 aces were I anticipated the direction, adjusted position prior to the serve, moved to the ball and still missed it!!!
Very nice DM! :worthy:


I've been staying away from all this who has the best this or that discussion, so I just noticed my addition here. I'd have to say that I appreciate the compliment. But think my serve is nowhere near it's potential. It's decent, but I'd say Scott hits his serve bigger than I do, at his diminutive stature.
I'd hate to see what a Karlovic or even Federer, would have in comparison. It's just no contest.


And, if you think Scott's serve is big then you should see Jster's!  Scott's is 4.5 and Jster's serve is 4.5 to about 6.0, depending on how the body is feeling.


When I was playing college tennis I got hit in the arm by one of the guy's serves, and it literally parted my skin. Left me with a welt and a some bleeding. Nothing nasty, just impressive.


I have far too many wounds to explain here from against Jster's serve..............and, I haven't played against him all that much!?   :;:-|    Crazy on the parted skin, I guess the ball had some serious spin or hit at a bad angle.

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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2007, 11:49:20 AM »
Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.
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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2007, 11:51:35 AM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?

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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2007, 11:57:52 AM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Make no bones about it, Scott is quite powerful.  He has a deadly overhead and can really smack his groundies, especially the fh.  He also hits a mean hard slice serve and a nice kicker.  

I entered a tourney many yrs ago where they held a fast serve contest.  I hit 1 121mph and lost by 2mph to the winner who was in the open and I was in the 35 and over at the time.  So, when I see these folks like Roddick, Federer, Venus, etc. hitting way over that I am in awe.
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2007, 12:20:00 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Scott has a pretty powerful 1st flat serve and a nice kick serve.  I'd say he has success with good mechanics in place of the obvious lack of height.  His motion is consistent and he gets alot of extension upward and good body torque for his kickers.  I'd say all of us can hit flat serves above 100 MPH but it is pretty rare to see those as we play almost all dubs where kickers and placement are better.  Jster's serve is a step ahead of the rest of ours with a powerful flat serve and an absolutely wicked lefty kick serve.  As I said before, when he is feeling good his serve is easily 5.0 or better!

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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2007, 12:30:22 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Scott has a pretty powerful 1st flat serve and a nice kick serve.  I'd say he has success with good mechanics in place of the obvious lack of height.  His motion is consistent and he gets alot of extension upward and good body torque for his kickers.  I'd say all of us can hit flat serves above 100 MPH but it is pretty rare to see those as we play almost all dubs where kickers and placement are better.  Jster's serve is a step ahead of the rest of ours with a powerful flat serve and an absolutely wicked lefty kick serve.  As I said before, when he is feeling good his serve is easily 5.0 or better!


Nowhere does it say that smaller people can't have big serves. Chang could hit it pretty hard at times when he wanted to. It's just the window of opportunity is smaller, but it's still there. You have to be much more accurate and repetative with your motion the shorter you are.
As for me, I've almost given up hitting flat serves except the odd one up the 'T'. I have found my second serve wins more points than the flat one so I usually just go with that. At least I get more complaints about the spinner than the flat.

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« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2007, 12:39:42 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Scott has a pretty powerful 1st flat serve and a nice kick serve.  I'd say he has success with good mechanics in place of the obvious lack of height.  His motion is consistent and he gets alot of extension upward and good body torque for his kickers.  I'd say all of us can hit flat serves above 100 MPH but it is pretty rare to see those as we play almost all dubs where kickers and placement are better.  Jster's serve is a step ahead of the rest of ours with a powerful flat serve and an absolutely wicked lefty kick serve.  As I said before, when he is feeling good his serve is easily 5.0 or better!


Nowhere does it say that smaller people can't have big serves. Chang could hit it pretty hard at times when he wanted to. It's just the window of opportunity is smaller, but it's still there. You have to be much more accurate and repetative with your motion the shorter you are.
As for me, I've almost given up hitting flat serves except the odd one up the 'T'. I have found my second serve wins more points than the flat one so I usually just go with that. At least I get more complaints about the spinner than the flat.


Yeah, serves that move sideways with quite a bit of kick seem more effective to me than hard flat ones.  Unless we are talking about hard flat ones that paint lines.  At least in dubs that is.  An effective kick serve with good sideways movement is hard for a returner to get back consistently cross court and by an agressive competent net man.  Of course, a hard flat serve is necessary every so often to make sure the returner has that to think about as well as the kickers.

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« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2007, 12:41:34 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Scott has a pretty powerful 1st flat serve and a nice kick serve.  I'd say he has success with good mechanics in place of the obvious lack of height.  His motion is consistent and he gets alot of extension upward and good body torque for his kickers.  I'd say all of us can hit flat serves above 100 MPH but it is pretty rare to see those as we play almost all dubs where kickers and placement are better.  Jster's serve is a step ahead of the rest of ours with a powerful flat serve and an absolutely wicked lefty kick serve.  As I said before, when he is feeling good his serve is easily 5.0 or better!


Nowhere does it say that smaller people can't have big serves. Chang could hit it pretty hard at times when he wanted to. It's just the window of opportunity is smaller, but it's still there. You have to be much more accurate and repetative with your motion the shorter you are.
As for me, I've almost given up hitting flat serves except the odd one up the 'T'. I have found my second serve wins more points than the flat one so I usually just go with that. At least I get more complaints about the spinner than the flat.


Yeah, serves that move sideways quite a bit with kick seem more effective to me than hard flat ones.  Unless we are talking about hard flat ones that paint lines.  At least in dubs that is.  An effective kick serve with good sideways movement is hard for a returner to get back consistently cross court and by an agressive competent net man.


Especially when hit to a one handed backhand.

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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2007, 01:05:32 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Make no bones about it, Scott is quite powerful.  He has a deadly overhead and can really smack his groundies, especially the fh.  He also hits a mean hard slice serve and a nice kicker.  

I entered a tourney many yrs ago where they held a fast serve contest.  I hit 1 121mph and lost by 2mph to the winner who was in the open and I was in the 35 and over at the time.  So, when I see these folks like Roddick, Federer, Venus, etc. hitting way over that I am in awe.



Yeah, my serve has always been the easiest most natural part of my game. Sometimes my Fh will spray when I'm feeling the pressure but my serve is always there. And I agree when you realize how much needs to go right and how much it takes out of you to hit 120+ you have allot of respect for players who do it with regularity, especially the women.
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« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2007, 02:17:00 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Make no bones about it, Scott is quite powerful.  He has a deadly overhead and can really smack his groundies, especially the fh.  He also hits a mean hard slice serve and a nice kicker.  

I entered a tourney many yrs ago where they held a fast serve contest.  I hit 1 121mph and lost by 2mph to the winner who was in the open and I was in the 35 and over at the time.  So, when I see these folks like Roddick, Federer, Venus, etc. hitting way over that I am in awe.


Woah! I managed 90mph at the Wimbledon speed net, and was really proud of that, but 121 is insane. I think in matches, I average around 80 with a little kick, but I don't have enough variation: nearly always kick 1st serve (occasionally flat), topspin 2nd.

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« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2007, 07:32:07 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2007, 10:26:08 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2007, 10:42:27 PM »
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Scott's serve is very good.  If he were say 6'2 his serve would be ridiculous.
And OSU, although he doesn't hit it 120, he places it on a dime and always seems to get an incredible amount of 1st serves in.

For me the serve is just an "athletic" stroke where it always just came naturally to me.  I wish I could say that about the fh volley and backhand.  But to me the serve is all about rhythm and timing though I guess you can say that about all strokes.  Being 6'4 with long arms is a big plus, no denying that.  If all else fails just toss er up, close yer eyes, and let er rip.


I'm guessing Scott puts a fair bit of spin on his serve, to make it so effective, because being 5 foot 4, I doubt he beats people with power? What sort of paces are you serves?


Scott has a pretty powerful 1st flat serve and a nice kick serve.  I'd say he has success with good mechanics in place of the obvious lack of height.  His motion is consistent and he gets alot of extension upward and good body torque for his kickers.  I'd say all of us can hit flat serves above 100 MPH but it is pretty rare to see those as we play almost all dubs where kickers and placement are better.  Jster's serve is a step ahead of the rest of ours with a powerful flat serve and an absolutely wicked lefty kick serve.  As I said before, when he is feeling good his serve is easily 5.0 or better!


Nowhere does it say that smaller people can't have big serves. Chang could hit it pretty hard at times when he wanted to. It's just the window of opportunity is smaller, but it's still there. You have to be much more accurate and repetative with your motion the shorter you are.
As for me, I've almost given up hitting flat serves except the odd one up the 'T'. I have found my second serve wins more points than the flat one so I usually just go with that. At least I get more complaints about the spinner than the flat.


Yeah, serves that move sideways quite a bit with kick seem more effective to me than hard flat ones.  Unless we are talking about hard flat ones that paint lines.  At least in dubs that is.  An effective kick serve with good sideways movement is hard for a returner to get back consistently cross court and by an agressive competent net man.


Especially when hit to a one handed backhand.


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And I'll remember that dmast if we ever play and I'll show you some of my own serves if you dare to pick on  my backhand.
I'll say this much, a few of you have said the serve comes naturally and is the most comfortable part. It's not the case for me until I get into rythem. Once I am in serving rythem I am not afraid to go for first serves again on my second serve with just a tad bit more spin and never miss. But untill I get into rythem I am really not comfortable with my serves. Not saying they aren't good, I can still place it nicely to someone's backhand but its just.. I don't have the feeling like 'Yeah break me now if you can!' you know.. I believe thats essential for the best tennis, the feeling that you get when you are in full swing.
120 is still insane. Its sick. I have to record my serve speed now to see how it is. Three years back I know my first serve was 75.. and I feel that was like a baby ball toss compared to my serve now.


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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2007, 10:58:21 PM »
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And I'll remember that dmast if we ever play and I'll show you some of my own serves if you dare to pick on  my backhand.
I'll say this much, a few of you have said the serve comes naturally and is the most comfortable part. It's not the case for me until I get into rythem. Once I am in serving rythem I am not afraid to go for first serves again on my second serve with just a tad bit more spin and never miss. But untill I get into rythem I am really not comfortable with my serves. Not saying they aren't good, I can still place it nicely to someone's backhand but its just.. I don't have the feeling like 'Yeah break me now if you can!' you know.. I believe thats essential for the best tennis, the feeling that you get when you are in full swing.
120 is still insane. Its sick. I have to record my serve speed now to see how it is. Three years back I know my first serve was 75.. and I feel that was like a baby ball toss compared to my serve now.


Just don't try an do it in one of those booths at tournaments unless you are properly warmed up. I don't bother with them and have never had my serve timed since there's never been a gun available while I'm playing.

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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2007, 08:20:37 AM »
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Good.  I like as many of my threads as possible to get as many posts as possible, regardless what they are talking about.   :)~


I agree!  Besides, conversations evolve.  To try to control them to specific topics is somewhat silly to me.