Topic: NFL Thread

[Chris1987]

Maybe as Monky says Babble we just look at the whole day and game as fantstic and very special memories so somebody who played a small part in helping the Colts win the Superbowl  can be thrown a lifeline at any time in my books 

Rex made all sorts of mistakes for sure, but I think another way to look at him and his career is that he was the QB when the Bears reached the Superbowl, since they have reached it the past 2 years they haven't even got close to going there again.

As Dallas would say: " "

Now whats worse? Rex and the Superbowl loss? or a ban for excessive use of emoticons?   

[dmastous]

Maybe as Monky says Babble we just look at the whole day and game as fantstic and very special memories so somebody who played a small part in helping the Colts win the Superbowl  can be thrown a lifeline at any time in my books 

Rex made all sorts of mistakes for sure, but I think another way to look at him and his career is that he was the QB when the Bears reached the Superbowl, since they have reached it the past 2 years they haven't even got close to going there again.

As Dallas would say: " "

Now whats worse? Rex and the Superbowl loss? or a ban for excessive use of emoticons?   

I think a ban might be a relief for some people. 

[Chris1987]

Maybe as Monky says Babble we just look at the whole day and game as fantstic and very special memories so somebody who played a small part in helping the Colts win the Superbowl  can be thrown a lifeline at any time in my books 

Rex made all sorts of mistakes for sure, but I think another way to look at him and his career is that he was the QB when the Bears reached the Superbowl, since they have reached it the past 2 years they haven't even got close to going there again.

As Dallas would say: " "

Now whats worse? Rex and the Superbowl loss? or a ban for excessive use of emoticons?   

I think a ban might be a relief for some people. 

I get the feeling you could be right 

[Babblelot]

AMF Kyle Orton

Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Chicago Bears

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Jay Cutler got his wish Thursday: a ticket out of Denver. And the Chicago Bears have a franchise quarterback for the first time in decades.

The Broncos on Thursday traded their disgruntled Pro Bowl passer to the Bears, who’ve gone through a bevy of quarterbacks without much success ever since Jim McMahon was calling plays in the 1980s.

The Broncos get quarterback Kyle Orton in return, along with two first-round draft picks and a third-rounder.

[dmastous]

AMF Kyle Orton

Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Chicago Bears

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Jay Cutler got his wish Thursday: a ticket out of Denver. And the Chicago Bears have a franchise quarterback for the first time in decades.

The Broncos on Thursday traded their disgruntled Pro Bowl passer to the Bears, who’ve gone through a bevy of quarterbacks without much success ever since Jim McMahon was calling plays in the 1980s.

The Broncos get quarterback Kyle Orton in return, along with two first-round draft picks and a third-rounder.

You got a real winner. He shoots himself out of Denver, then cries when they decide to trade him.

[OSU Buckeye]

AMF Kyle Orton

Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Chicago Bears

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Jay Cutler got his wish Thursday: a ticket out of Denver. And the Chicago Bears have a franchise quarterback for the first time in decades.

The Broncos on Thursday traded their disgruntled Pro Bowl passer to the Bears, who’ve gone through a bevy of quarterbacks without much success ever since Jim McMahon was calling plays in the 1980s.

The Broncos get quarterback Kyle Orton in return, along with two first-round draft picks and a third-rounder.

You got a real winner. He shoots himself out of Denver, then cries when they decide to trade him.

But I think still better than KO...........I think Babble would agree! 

[Babblelot]

AMF Kyle Orton

Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Chicago Bears

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Jay Cutler got his wish Thursday: a ticket out of Denver. And the Chicago Bears have a franchise quarterback for the first time in decades.

The Broncos on Thursday traded their disgruntled Pro Bowl passer to the Bears, who’ve gone through a bevy of quarterbacks without much success ever since Jim McMahon was calling plays in the 1980s.

The Broncos get quarterback Kyle Orton in return, along with two first-round draft picks and a third-rounder.

You got a real winner. He shoots himself out of Denver, then cries when they decide to trade him.

Hmm... Okay, Mel Kiper, I'll bite. Who are the "real" winners and which of them are being traded this year? We upgraded. That's all you can hope for, dum-bass.

[Monky]

AMF Kyle Orton

Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Chicago Bears

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Jay Cutler got his wish Thursday: a ticket out of Denver. And the Chicago Bears have a franchise quarterback for the first time in decades.

The Broncos on Thursday traded their disgruntled Pro Bowl passer to the Bears, who’ve gone through a bevy of quarterbacks without much success ever since Jim McMahon was calling plays in the 1980s.

The Broncos get quarterback Kyle Orton in return, along with two first-round draft picks and a third-rounder.

You got a real winner. He shoots himself out of Denver, then cries when they decide to trade him.

Hmm... Okay, Mel Kiper, I'll bite. Who are the "real" winners and which of them are being traded this year? We upgraded. That's all you can hope for, dum-bass.

Nice Babblelot, like how we were talking about your bears with who haven't had a decent QB for the past, 4-5 seasons?, now you get this guy. the guy is an awesome player so I hope it works out, as far as him living up to the hype

[Babblelot]

AMF Kyle Orton

Broncos agree to trade Cutler to Chicago Bears

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP)—Jay Cutler got his wish Thursday: a ticket out of Denver. And the Chicago Bears have a franchise quarterback for the first time in decades.

The Broncos on Thursday traded their disgruntled Pro Bowl passer to the Bears, who’ve gone through a bevy of quarterbacks without much success ever since Jim McMahon was calling plays in the 1980s.

The Broncos get quarterback Kyle Orton in return, along with two first-round draft picks and a third-rounder.

You got a real winner. He shoots himself out of Denver, then cries when they decide to trade him.

Hmm... Okay, Mel Kiper, I'll bite. Who are the "real" winners and which of them are being traded this year? We upgraded. That's all you can hope for, dum-bass.

Nice Babblelot, like how we were talking about your bears with who haven't had a decent QB for the past, 4-5 seasons?, now you get this guy. the guy is an awesome player so I hope it works out, as far as him living up to the hype

You're being too generous, there, Monky. Good Rex had a nice 9-game stretch at the beginning of their run to the Super Bowl, but Bad Rex was so awful the second half of the season that he got benched and we didn't know who our starting QB was going to be heading into the playoffs.

Prior to Rex  off the top of my head: Kyle Orton, Kordell Stewart, Jim Miller, Chis Chandler, some dude Harris(?), I must be forgetting about a dozen. You have to go all the way back to 1987, when Eric Kramer set all the Bears passing records. But even then, his one season was an abberation. He didn't do much after that.

[Babblelot]

Bears agree to terms with seven-time Pro Bowler Pace Wooo Hooo!!!!!  
   
LAKE FOREST, Ill. - Shortly after acquiring Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler in a blockbuster trade with the Broncos, the Bears on Thursday agreed to terms with free agent offensive tackle Orlando Pace on a three-year contract.
 

Orlando Pace was voted to seven Pro Bowls in 12 seasons with the St. Louis Rams.
Pace, a seven-time Pro Bowler, was cut by the St. Louis Rams on March 10. The first overall pick in the 1997 draft out of Ohio State, the mammoth 6-7, 325-pounder played 12 seasons with the Rams, including three from 2001-03 when Bears coach Lovie Smith was St. Louis’ defensive coordinator.

[OSU Buckeye]

Ah-hah!   A stand-out ex OSU player joining the Bears!   

Invented the "pancake block" he did. 

[Babblelot]

Ah-hah!   A stand-out ex OSU player joining the Bears!   

Invented the "pancake block" he did. 

That's right! The pancake! 

[OSU Buckeye]

Ah-hah!   A stand-out ex OSU player joining the Bears!   

Invented the "pancake block" he did. 

That's right! The pancake! 

People actually brought pancakes to the games because of him.     I don't know if they threw them on the field or just held them all game. 

[Babblelot]

Ah-hah!   A stand-out ex OSU player joining the Bears!   

Invented the "pancake block" he did. 

That's right! The pancake! 

People actually brought pancakes to the games because of him.     I don't know if they threw them on the field or just held them all game. 

  that paints such a funny picture. People holding pancakes 

[Jamesdster]

TWO #1s AND a 3rd dound pick for Cutler??  You gotta be kidding me.  Sorry babble,  you got robbed.

[Babblelot]

TWO #1s AND a 3rd dound pick for Cutler??  You gotta be kidding me.  Sorry babble,  you got robbed.

WRONG!

I'd give up a 1st round promisary note that reads "I'll rob you blind while I hold out and under-perform when I report to practice" every time to get a proven, NFL player. So would Bill Belicheck, and he doesn't do so bad.

[retro]

Bears agree to terms with seven-time Pro Bowler Pace Wooo Hooo!!!!!  
   
LAKE FOREST, Ill. - Shortly after acquiring Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler in a blockbuster trade with the Broncos, the Bears on Thursday agreed to terms with free agent offensive tackle Orlando Pace on a three-year contract.
 

Orlando Pace was voted to seven Pro Bowls in 12 seasons with the St. Louis Rams.
Pace, a seven-time Pro Bowler, was cut by the St. Louis Rams on March 10. The first overall pick in the 1997 draft out of Ohio State, the mammoth 6-7, 325-pounder played 12 seasons with the Rams, including three from 2001-03 when Bears coach Lovie Smith was St. Louis’ defensive coordinator.

Only if he is/can stay healthy

[Babblelot]

Bears agree to terms with seven-time Pro Bowler Pace Wooo Hooo!!!!!  
   
LAKE FOREST, Ill. - Shortly after acquiring Pro Bowl quarterback Jay Cutler in a blockbuster trade with the Broncos, the Bears on Thursday agreed to terms with free agent offensive tackle Orlando Pace on a three-year contract.
 

Orlando Pace was voted to seven Pro Bowls in 12 seasons with the St. Louis Rams.
Pace, a seven-time Pro Bowler, was cut by the St. Louis Rams on March 10. The first overall pick in the 1997 draft out of Ohio State, the mammoth 6-7, 325-pounder played 12 seasons with the Rams, including three from 2001-03 when Bears coach Lovie Smith was St. Louis’ defensive coordinator.

Only if he is/can stay healthy

  Come on, you guys, get real for a minute. Letting Cassell go was brilliant if Brady stays healthy. Resigning McNabb was brilliant if he can stay healthy. It was a huge upgrade (period) That's all you can ask for.

[dmastous]

TWO #1s AND a 3rd dound pick for Cutler??  You gotta be kidding me.  Sorry babble,  you got robbed.

WRONG!

I'd give up a 1st round promisary note that reads "I'll rob you blind while I hold out and under-perform when I report to practice" every time to get a proven, NFL player. So would Bill Belicheck, and he doesn't do so bad.

It's the new trend in football. First round picks are way overvalued right now. The problem seems to be that there is an expectation from the players being picked that if they are picked top 5 they should get "x" based on previous top 5 picks. But the problem is they may be demonstrably less talented than previous top 5 picks. So teams looking at a first round pick need to really understand what's available and whether it's worth picking that high. These days, normally, it's not worth it.
Look at San Francisco with Smith. They were in a position where the needed a QB. Smith was the top QB in that draft. They had the first pick. But Smith was just not first round material in most drafts. That year was just a poor draft quality wise. San Francisco couldn't give that pick away. No one wanted it. So they found themselves "stuck" with Smith and trying to make the most of it. It set the 49ers back 5 years at least.

[Babblelot]

TWO #1s AND a 3rd dound pick for Cutler??  You gotta be kidding me.  Sorry babble,  you got robbed.

WRONG!

I'd give up a 1st round promisary note that reads "I'll rob you blind while I hold out and under-perform when I report to practice" every time to get a proven, NFL player. So would Bill Belicheck, and he doesn't do so bad.

It's the new trend in football. First round picks are way overvalued right now. The problem seems to be that there is an expectation from the players being picked that if they are picked top 5 they should get "x" based on previous top 5 picks. But the problem is they may be demonstrably less talented than previous top 5 picks. So teams looking at a first round pick need to really understand what's available and whether it's worth picking that high. These days, normally, it's not worth it.
Look at San Francisco with Smith. They were in a position where the needed a QB. Smith was the top QB in that draft. They had the first pick. But Smith was just not first round material in most drafts. That year was just a poor draft quality wise. San Francisco couldn't give that pick away. No one wanted it. So they found themselves "stuck" with Smith and trying to make the most of it. It set the 49ers back 5 years at least.

Speaking of SF, they won't look at everyone's #1, QB Matt Stafford from UGA because his parents got divorced and he isn't willing to have a psych eval.   

If you guys followed the Bears, you'd have a better understanding of why I want 2nd and 3rd round picks and not 1st rounders. Actually, I'd put the Bears at the very top of the league with their 2nd and 3rd round picks    By contrast, if you claim the Bears have the most 1R busts you won't get an argument from me.