Author Topic: Roddick vs Ljubicic  (Read 3841 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Tennis4you

  • Administrator
  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 24865
  • Gender: Male
    • Tennis4you
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« on: March 06, 2005, 04:39:03 PM »
Roddick is up a break in the first set.  Ivan looks fairly tired and I hope his legs are fried.  Agassi in a 5th match for a win or loss in the first round would be sweet!!!   ://  ://  ://
Good Luck on the Court!!!
Scott Baker
http://www.tennis4you.com

Offline Sophie

  • Tennis Addict
  • ****
  • Posts: 324
  • Gender: Female
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2005, 07:02:39 PM »
Way close match so far.  I wish I was watching instead of watching a little live scoring scoreboard.  125 points each.  Yikes.

Offline hummer23mm

  • Tennis Addict
  • ****
  • Posts: 170
    • http://www.atptennis.com
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 07:08:59 PM »
roddick is going down, agassi can breathe easy, he's playing 2 out of 3.
Mike

Offline ImaMadGoat

  • Tennis Addict
  • ****
  • Posts: 167
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 07:39:34 PM »
two sets all

are they showing this on ESPN2 now or later tonight?
Constant Improvement, Relentless Effort.

http://www.3wisefools.com - The culmination of ridiculous banter and serious discussion.

Anonymous

  • Guest
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2005, 08:10:55 PM »
Now, It's over Croatia won

Offline Snowman

  • Tennis Player
  • **
  • Posts: 7
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2005, 08:34:27 PM »
Great, great match and a Great, great Ivan Ljubicic!!!!

What can you say? The better player won.

Offline gary2414

  • Tennis Pro
  • *****
  • Posts: 371
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2005, 08:53:30 PM »
It seemed when Roddick won the fourth set tiebreaker he was able to serve first in the fifth set which is a big advantage in a no tiebreaker set.  If the server wins each game one server will go up 5-4 and his opponent will have to served to stay in the set.  Then that same server will be up 6-5 and the same opponent will have to serve to stay in the set.  However when Roddick started to served the fifth set he lost four straing point to lose his serve and go down a break.  Then he was soon down two breaks.   It seem Roddick had several set points in that tiebreak including some on his serve before he won.  He finnally won the tiebreak by not hitting a ball.  His opponent double faulted.   Winning that tiebreak seemed to take everything out of him.  Roddick lost the third set tiebreak today before he won the fourth set tiebreak.

Offline Jamesdster

  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 6399
  • Gender: Male
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2005, 10:26:17 PM »
Wow!  USA loses with Roddick, Agassi, and the Bryan's?  Are you sure it wasn't Gimelstob, Spadea, Gambill and Fish?
I was at this casino minding my own business, and this guy came up to me and said, "You're gonna have to move, you're blocking a fire exit." As though if there was a fire, I wasn't gonna run. If you're flammible and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit.  - Mitch Hedberg

Offline euroka1

  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 5842
  • Gender: Male
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2005, 02:39:19 AM »
Just lost a lot of sleep watching the match on ESPN. Roddick played a good game and in no way let the side down (He was the side!). But compared to ljubicec, he did seem to lack the mental toughness and determination and indeedx the sheer joy of competition, which we used to see two years ago.  The serve again was his big thing.

I'll be interested in reading other people's comments, particularly Scott's, tomorow,

Anonymous

  • Guest
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2005, 03:57:08 AM »
No shame. Considering Ivan's form this year it was a tough first round.

Offline trente-quinze

  • Tennis Enthusiast
  • ***
  • Posts: 94
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2005, 04:02:19 AM »
(above guest was me)  :Blush:

I can't believe ESPN wasn't showing Davis Cup live.
They'll never understand how to make DC popular in the States.  :(
the froggy chick formerly known as arnod

Anonymous

  • Guest
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2005, 05:39:11 AM »
it's funny how this has turned out, given all the hype about Andre's return to DC.

Offline gm3106

  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 3399
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2005, 05:40:01 AM »
it's funny how this has turned out, given all the hype about Andre's return to DC.

I forgot to log in before.

Offline Tennis4you

  • Administrator
  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 24865
  • Gender: Male
    • Tennis4you
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2005, 06:24:11 AM »
TQ, I wish the DC was much more popular in the US.  This is the first year I actually knew when it was on.  Usually it takes place and I do not know until it is over, that in no way can help the Davis Cup is they do not promote it.

euroka1 - I only got to see the first 2 sets.  I was bummed to see Ljubicic level the match, then I had to go play tennis, when I got back the match was over.  Ivan was a wrecking ball.  And I believe they said he did the same thing to the US a few years back, 3 wins.  In the first set he looked tired to me.  I was hoping he would get worse.  And then I get home and read that Ivan had knee cramps and Roddick still could not take advantage, that sucks!  We were supposed to have an incredibule team, and we never made it out of the first round.  All the credit to Ivan.  A little credit to Agassi for committing, but he was sucking.
Good Luck on the Court!!!
Scott Baker
http://www.tennis4you.com

Anonymous

  • Guest
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2005, 06:33:06 AM »
Quote from: "trente-quinze"
(above guest was me)  :Blush:

I can't believe ESPN wasn't showing Davis Cup live.
They'll never understand how to make DC popular in the States.  :(

they showed it live on espn classic

Offline euroka1

  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 5842
  • Gender: Male
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2005, 06:35:20 AM »
Quote from: "Tennis4you"


euroka1 - I only got to see the first 2 sets.  I was bummed to see Ljubicic level the match, then I had to go play tennis, when I got back the match was over.  Ivan was a wrecking ball.  And I believe they said he did the same thing to the US a few years back, 3 wins.  In the first set he looked tired to me.  I was hoping he would get worse.  And then I get home and read that Ivan had knee cramps and Roddick still could not take advantage, that sucks!  We were supposed to have an incredibule team, and we never made it out of the first round.  All the credit to Ivan.  A little credit to Agassi for committing, but he was sucking.


Thanks Scott: I too would rather be playing my kind of tennis than even watching this class of stuff. I could not help but recall your remark in the Davis Cup thread about the essential one-dimensionality of Roddick's game. He does not seem to be able to adapt to new situations on the court. One of the three or four reasons why he is not my favorite player to watch.

Offline Tennis4you

  • Administrator
  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 24865
  • Gender: Male
    • Tennis4you
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2005, 06:55:11 AM »
What completely blew my mind was how God awful Roddick's forehand was when Ivan came to the net.  Roddick had several chances and blew them all. Heck, there was a game point for Ivan on his own serve, he comes to the net and Roddick swings as hard as he can at a forehand and knocked it waaaay the hell out.  Now I am not sure what part of that is considered smart tennis, but I thought it was pretty dumb.  I think we have seen the last of Roddick occupying the #1 spot in the world.  And I feel I could probably say the same thing if Federer got injured and was out for a year.
Good Luck on the Court!!!
Scott Baker
http://www.tennis4you.com

Offline MC ill Logic

  • Tennis God
  • ******
  • Posts: 1378
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2005, 07:35:21 AM »
In response to the people who think Andy is not one-dimensional, by 1-dimensional we don't mean Andy can't slice, or serve and volley, or play defense, or change it occasionally.  By one-dimensional we mean even if he changes it up every now and then -- which all players do -- he only has one effective game plan.  I'm talking about actually changing strategy for a whole set or two, and not just what he might do from point to point.

Ljubicic basically said in an interview that Roddick doesn't change his game enough, that everytime you play him, you learn more, and that if you're reading his game, especially his serve, you can eventually beat him.  

The thing is, IMO, everybody on the ATP tour at this point probably knows how to beat Roddick, but very few people have the skills to pull it off.  His one-dimensional game is still good enough to beat 95% of the top 100 any day of the week on hard courts.

Offline gary2414

  • Tennis Pro
  • *****
  • Posts: 371
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2005, 08:32:58 AM »
Because of all the college basketball ESPN Classic picked it up live with ESPN2 showing the dediding match on tape.  This was much better because those of you that saw it on tape on ESPN2 could tell Roddick would lose since that was the match they showed.  Since fewer systems have ESPN Classic they decided they needed to show it.  They needed to show it live somewhere because the ITF just make take the US hosted Davis Cup matches and give them to the tennis channel and most people would then need a large dish to get it if they were allowed to put a large dish up.  Many HOA will not allow it as well as appartment hourses.  For me that would mean a move from Mesa, Arizona to the Palm Springs area.

Offline tennisgeek

  • Tennis Player
  • **
  • Posts: 23
Roddick vs Ljubicic
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2005, 10:50:09 AM »
Roddick's game seems to be getting worse or yet most of the top 20 is learning how to play him. He was so predictable especially when Ljubicic came to the net. I like Roddick, but he is not heading in the right direction IMO.