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Vitamin D and Vitamin K2(MK-7) synergy -- Updated.

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Swish:
 
 
Chart for Vitamin D blood levels and % disease prevention.
 
http://www.grassrootshealth.net/media/download/disease_incidence_prev_chart_101608.pdf
 
 
 
 

Litotes:

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--- Quote from: Litotes on July 11, 2013, 07:55:30 AM ---Vitamins are for those who don't get enough nutrients through their regular meals. If you eat nothing but junk food you sure need them. If you eat lots of vegetables and fruit, you probably don't.

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No you do.
There is no way for instance to get enough vitamin D year around.
MK-7 or vitamin K2 can be gotten from natto, but most don't like natto.
You have to supplement.
 
Food these days don't have the nutrients they used to, they are very low in some of them.

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Well, I don't take vitamin supplements on account of having a fairly healthy diet and spending quite a bit of time in the sun when it's out - without sunscreen on. What do you think I am risking? 

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Increased risk for disease and bodily functions not performing at optimal levels.
 
Just read a study were increased anti oxidants in the urine is one predictor for life span.
In other words, though they go in and out of the system they are fulfilling needs when there.
 
This is just one of many studies on lower vitamin D levels:
 
Vitamin D and bone aging
 
Then there's magnesium, used in over 300 processes in the body and over 80% are deficient in it.
 
 
Their worth isn't being discussed much anymore but the optimal amounts for the most part.
 
Most doctors don't know much about it but some do.

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Well, I have taken several blood samples in recent years, and asked specifically if I was short of any vitamins and got the message every time that the levels were fine. Both vitamin D and magnesium were definitely among those checked. But I'll consider adding to my intake in winter, when the sun is rarely up (I live in Norway). It is generally recommended here anyway. But then, they don't expect people to eat healthy. And they expect them to use too much sunscreen, blocking the vitamin uptake from the sun. So recommendations are given with that in mind.

Swish:

--- Quote from: Litotes on July 13, 2013, 03:14:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: swish on July 13, 2013, 02:11:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: Litotes on July 13, 2013, 01:35:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: swish on July 12, 2013, 10:01:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: Litotes on July 11, 2013, 07:55:30 AM ---Vitamins are for those who don't get enough nutrients through their regular meals. If you eat nothing but junk food you sure need them. If you eat lots of vegetables and fruit, you probably don't.

--- End quote ---

 
No you do.
There is no way for instance to get enough vitamin D year around.
MK-7 or vitamin K2 can be gotten from natto, but most don't like natto.
You have to supplement.
 
Food these days don't have the nutrients they used to, they are very low in some of them.

--- End quote ---


Well, I don't take vitamin supplements on account of having a fairly healthy diet and spending quite a bit of time in the sun when it's out - without sunscreen on. What do you think I am risking? 

--- End quote ---

 
Increased risk for disease and bodily functions not performing at optimal levels.
 
Just read a study were increased anti oxidants in the urine is one predictor for life span.
In other words, though they go in and out of the system they are fulfilling needs when there.
 
This is just one of many studies on lower vitamin D levels:
 
Vitamin D and bone aging
 
Then there's magnesium, used in over 300 processes in the body and over 80% are deficient in it.
 
 
Their worth isn't being discussed much anymore but the optimal amounts for the most part.
 
Most doctors don't know much about it but some do.

--- End quote ---


Well, I have taken several blood samples in recent years, and asked specifically if I was short of any vitamins and got the message every time that the levels were fine. Both vitamin D and magnesium were definitely among those checked. But I'll consider adding to my intake in winter, when the sun is rarely up (I live in Norway). It is generally recommended here anyway. But then, they don't expect people to eat healthy. And they expect them to use too much sunscreen, blocking the vitamin uptake from the sun. So recommendations are given with that in mind.


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The readings that are considered normal are in many cases not normal.
 
The people who determine these levels are way behind the latest research, maybe ten years or more.
 
Usually 30 ng/ml is rated as normal for Vitamin D, but for optimal use it should be 50 - 80 ng/ml.
This is way higher and the amounts needed for some disease prevention.
 
 
 
 

Swish:
Doctors for instance will tell you that your vitamin D levels are fine.
They use the metric of 30 ng/ml as a low point.
The amount needed for disease prevention is around 50-80 ng/ml which close to no one has unless their supplementing.
 
Taking vitamin D won't bring your levels up quickly, it takes weeks to get it moving and about 3 months to level out with a constant intake amount.
 
I may start a new thread about magnesium, very important and over 80% of the population is deficient.
It's used in over 300 chemical processes in the body and very effective for preventing kidney stones among many other problems.
 
 

Litotes:
I hope my vitamin D levels are up to scratch now, at least, I've gotten a lot of Sun this summer and I'm about the palest guy you've never seen - short of an albino - so I absorb most of the Sun's rays.
 
I have taken magnesium supplement for some years previously but I stopped a few years back as I didn't notice any difference from taking it.

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