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Offline ImaMadGoat

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« on: March 08, 2005, 11:10:19 PM »
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/404/MDS.pdf

Looks like Safin has a Dream draw until the semis. Lubijcic on the other hand could face Fed in the Round of 16. Agassi hasta be somewhat relieved that he won't see Federer in the quarterfinals of a tournament. He could run into Hewitt in the quarters and Roddick in the semis if he plays well. Roddick could have a rematch with Pim Pim in the quarters.

Thoughts anyone? It's looking like a decent tournament! :H
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 03:02:01 AM »
Yeah, thanks for the draw. That's the first big tourney since the Oz Open, qualifications are underway, women are playing as well... I'm excited.  :uh:
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 12:17:11 PM »
It' s shame that Ljubicic could face Roger in the round of 16 already. But first, in the third round there could be an all Croatian match between Ljubicic and Ancic. Then the winner would go through to meet Federer.

But, maybe it's a good thing that Ivan could face Federer early, because in the latter stages of the tournament it would be very hard to beat Roger for everybody.

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 12:22:59 PM »
It is about time Agassi sended up in Safin's part of the draw.  

The match up I would love to see is Ljubicic vs Safin.  I thought that would be a great match.  You have to wonder if Ivan is feeling any exhaustion from all this tennis.

I am pumped for this tournament as well!!!

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 12:29:03 PM »
Nice, this tournament is like a mini GS. All the top players are there. I'll be taking tons of pics and probably do some biddings at the auction. If I'm not sun burnt by the time I'm back at my place, I'll post them  :whistle:
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2005, 05:37:26 PM »
If Fed can take IW, then he will have proved that the AO defeat to Safin was just a blip, and that normal service has been resumed. I know he has won some other tournaments recently, but those were just tune-ups -the MS touraments and the slams are the real deal. If Fed fails to bag either IW or Miami, the we can start raising some serious question marks- he doesn't want to go into his worst stretch of the season (clay) with doubts in his head.

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2005, 06:36:11 PM »
Quote from: "ImaMadGoat"
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/404/MDS.pdf


Thoughts anyone? It's looking like a decent tournament! :H


I agree, an interesting draw for once.

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2005, 08:59:16 AM »
It is good for both Agassi and Federer they arent in the same quarter.   I must confess, maybe I am overrating Agassi at this point, but he is one of the only players I still get nervous about, before he plays Roger.   I am super nervous that Federer drew Ljubicic.   Then again Ljubicic will probably come down from his high of Davis Cup.   Is he really good enough to take Federer 3 sets three times in a row?   I doubt it but could be wrong.

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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2005, 06:32:27 PM »
Who knows? Ivan has been playing excellent tennis lately. I wouldn't be surprised if he did. On a related note, Safin better walk through this draw without dropping three sets or else I'm gonna...well, be mad.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2005, 05:55:48 AM »
"Thoughts anyone? It's looking like a decent tournament!"

Agreed.  It's shaping up very nicely.

Roger.  I don't think Roger has anything to prove.  He may not get the trophy here or in Miami.  It makes little difference to me because I know he's pure tennis genius.  He needs to focus one match at a time and peak at the majors.  He's still the favorite here at this early stage.

Ivan.  Magnificent DC performance!  Is he spent or ready to take Roger's scalp?

Marat.  1st round bye, 2nd round clutch win.  It's great for Marat, mentally, to be through that match.  If he can handle the wind and his doubts/frustration, we may see more magic.  He's my guy.  So, GO MARAT!!

Andy.  Still struggling.

Lleyton.  No worries, mate, yet.

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2005, 07:16:53 AM »
Quote from: "ImaMadGoat"
http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/404/MDS.pdf

Looks like Safin has a Dream draw until the semis. Lubijcic on the other hand could face Fed in the Round of 16. Agassi hasta be somewhat relieved that he won't see Federer in the quarterfinals of a tournament. He could run into Hewitt in the quarters and Roddick in the semis if he plays well. Roddick could have a rematch with Pim Pim in the quarters.

Thoughts anyone? It's looking like a decent tournament! :H

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2005, 06:23:31 AM »
Agassi V Coria next.

What do you guys think? Coria has never beaten him on HC (or taken a set off him), and I'm predicting a similar outcome this time. Coria just doesn't have the weapons to hurt Agassi on HC, which will enable Andre to do his usual 'moving from side-to-side' thing. As long as he doesn't make too many errors, he should win.

BTW, does anyone else think that Srichaphan's straight sets defeat of Agassi at W 2002 seems more bizzare than ever, when you consider how poor Srichaphan has been playing ever since? It's like that was his only ever good performance. Coria beat Srichaphan BTW.

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2005, 09:48:24 AM »
Well Schrichipan reached the top 15 for awhile, building on that big win over Agassi at Wimbledon, which seemed to give him confidence.   It is only recently he has taken a big nose dive, but for awhile he became a significant player.

       Ljubicic will lose in straight sets to Fed when they play.   He isnt good enough to take Fed to the limit three times in a row.   Fed will be extra focused this time.

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2005, 10:53:36 AM »
Srichaphan still hasn't gone beyond the 4th round of a slam though. That win over Agassi was an anomaly.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2005, 12:19:28 PM »
I put Schrichipan, Roddick, blake, Gonzalez and a few others all in the same category. They hit big but haven't yet figured out how to play tennis.

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2005, 01:15:21 PM »
I think a big problem with those guys and almost all the rest of the guys on tour is that there games are very imature. Most of the young guys want to be flashy and hit big winners and big serves and big everything else. No matter how big and flashy the winner is it's still only 1 point. Agassi's game is probably the most mature developed game on tour right now, his biggest weapon is between his ears. There was kind of a unspoken rule that tennis players don't play after age 30 but now we're seeing guys stay out there longer. And allot of guys are winning the very first titles at the age of 30 and over. The reason is because their games have matured and their playing smarter tennis. That's what makes Federer so good, he's in his early 20's yet his game is amazingly mature. Federer rarely goes for more than he has to to win a point. Mentally his light years ahead of his contempraries. Nadal is another one, the reason people expect such great things from him is because most 18yo don't have games that are that developed, he has a very mature game. In my opinion I don't think we will see safin at his best until he gets a little older. He's game isn't mature enough to challenge Federer regularly although it is close. I think as these guys get older their games will mature and they will play smarter and might win more.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2005, 01:42:50 PM »
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The reason is because their games have matured and their playing smarter tennis. That's what makes Federer so good, he's in his early 20's yet his game is amazingly mature. Federer rarely goes for more than he has to to win a point. Mentally his light years ahead of his contempraries. Nadal is another one, the reason people expect such great things from him is because most 18yo don't have games that are that developed, he has a very mature game.


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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2005, 09:14:08 PM »
Spadea and Authurs are two guys that I can think of who won titles at 30 so I think there is allot of truth to that statement.

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2005, 09:55:27 PM »
As mentioned in an earlier thread, since I try to get by on a serve and a forehand.......Roddick.  I am ok at the net and a lefty,sooooooo Johnny Mac in a way.  Also, played a little like Roscoe Tanner.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2005, 12:24:22 AM »
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I put Schrichipan, Roddick, blake, Gonzalez and a few others all in the same category. They hit big but haven't yet figured out how to play tennis.
Let's not forget Roddick was number 1.  Although your point still stands.  And quite tall actually.
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Agassi's game is probably the most mature developed game on tour right now, his biggest weapon is between his ears.
Agassi is the very personification of high percentage tennis.  He's like a disciplined blackjack player strictly playing the odds, whereas fools all around him are betting on gut instinct.  Yeah.
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There was kind of a unspoken rule that tennis players don't play after age 30 but now we're seeing guys stay out there longer. And allot of guys are winning the very first titles at the age of 30 and over. The reason is because their games have matured and their playing smarter tennis.
Let's not forget that in the 80's there was Connors, and in the 70's Ken Rosewall.  Yeah, the age is a big thing but mostly because there's no true off season, and most pros start playing professional ball in their teens.  After 10 or 12 years of playing almost every day year round, yeah, you're probably ready to retire.  Agassi took a few years off, that helped save him.  What I'm getting at is I don't think there's something about being 30 in tennis that's intrinsically disadvantageous to the pro tennis player the same way being 20 might be a hindrance in high level female gymnastics.  

Arthur has arguably the nastiest lefty serve in tennis, and that certainly didn't hurt his recent success.
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That's what makes Federer so good, he's in his early 20's yet his game is amazingly mature. Federer rarely goes for more than he has to to win a point.
I'm not so sure I agree with this.  He doesn't go for a lot for Federer, but if it were a lesser player going for the shots that Roger makes look routine, we would think they were playing recklessly.  He looks like he's playing more mature than he really is because he's always so calm and he's so damn good.  You sit there and watch him and say "oh, that's all you have to do... just prepare early, be in the right spot, and hit the passing shot..." but looks are deceiving.  What he does is incredibly difficult even for other pros.  

About his calmness, look at any picture of Federer hitting a shot.  Other pros are grimacing, looking like they're taking the biggest dump of their live, and Federer looks calm like he's petting a puppy.  I've never seen anything like it.
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Nadal is another one, the reason people expect such great things from him is because most 18yo don't have games that are that developed, he has a very mature game.
I think his shot making is developed, but I don't know if I would consider his game mature.  In the matches I've seen he's just simply hit his opponents off the clay court.
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In my opinion I don't think we will see safin at his best until he gets a little older. He's game isn't mature enough to challenge Federer regularly although it is close. I think as these guys get older their games will mature and they will play smarter and might win more.
I agree.  Safin needs to mature.  Mostly, I think his attitude needs to be more mature.  But, yeah, he could definitely play more disciplined tennis.  He's got a powerful gun, he just needs to learn to aim it better.   :)~